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That is a Bucheimer "Jordon River Holster".


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Me and yes. The .38 stopped him and the partners .357 ended His criminal career. This was in the dark ages before all the crunchinticker high cap pistols were the rage. We were only allowed Colt or S&W revolvers with a 4" bbl, period. Twelve extra rounds on our belt.

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I'll be switched! Never saw a Panty Holster before. Like to see how it works.


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I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.

Someone posted a similar question about the 32 ACP a number of years ago and was made fun of. There was a comment that it would “bounce off someone’s head”. I had inherited a 32 Seecamp from my father-in-law the year before and shot it at some scrap plywood I had laying around. A 60 gr Silverpoint shot through 2 pieces of 5/8” exterior sheathing at about 10 feet. I felt a lot better about the 32 ACP after that.


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Originally Posted by Bill_N
I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.



The is a lot of data on penetration test done by the FBI and other govt agencies that person doesn't have to do the test to come to a conclusion as to what is appropirate.


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Originally Posted by CrazyCoot
Simple question: Would you trust your life with a .380?

I'm not interested in: if you can carry a bigger gun, then carry one. I just want to know if you, personally, would feel safe carrying a .380 only.


Without getting into a lot of convoluted different scenarios and just looking at your question as presented, then, "yes".

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Originally Posted by deflave
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jmho as an untrained civilian-
knowingly heading to a firefight with
any handgun seems like a silly proposition.
i'll be having a good semi auto shotgun or rifle
with multiple removable magazines depending on scenario



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Originally Posted by saddlesore
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I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.



The is a lot of data on penetration test done by the FBI and other govt agencies that person doesn't have to do the test to come to a conclusion as to what is appropirate.


Agreed. But seeing the results are a little different than reading it.


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Originally Posted by Bill_N
Originally Posted by saddlesore
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I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.



The is a lot of data on penetration test done by the FBI and other govt agencies that person doesn't have to do the test to come to a conclusion as to what is appropirate.


Agreed. But seeing the results are a little different than reading it.


But, living with "psychotic level determination" for 54 years causes me to want something bigger, I'm absolutely convinced I'm not the only one to posses it either. smile


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Bill_N
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Originally Posted by Bill_N
I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.



The is a lot of data on penetration test done by the FBI and other govt agencies that person doesn't have to do the test to come to a conclusion as to what is appropirate.


Agreed. But seeing the results are a little different than reading it.


But, living with "psychotic level determination" for 54 years causes me to want something bigger, I'm absolutely convinced I'm not the only one to posses it either. smile
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LOL, that worked well for that groid robbing the gun shop last month! grin


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Originally Posted by Bill_N
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Originally Posted by Bill_N
I think a .380 is fine. Especially if attire prohibits something larger. Most of the doubters have probably never tested any ammo to observe actual penetration.



The is a lot of data on penetration test done by the FBI and other govt agencies that person doesn't have to do the test to come to a conclusion as to what is appropirate.


Agreed. But seeing the results are a little different than reading it.


Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.


Do tell.
What gun were you shooting?
What were you shooting at?
What ammo were you using?
How did you analyze the results?


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Originally Posted by gunner500
LOL, that worked well for that groid robbing the gun shop last month! grin
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LOL, that worked well for that groid robbing the gun shop last month! grin
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That dork done a backwards headbutt with pistols flying 90's out across the floor. laugh


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Originally Posted by CrazyCoot
Simple question: Would you trust your life with a .380?


Yes. Almost every day. Loaded with Buffalo Bore 80gr Barnes TAC (I use Barnes for big game as well)for urban use.

Going into the high country for a hike/camping etc., my 357 gets the call.

Whatever you decide to carry, make sure the bullet is appropriate for the job at hand.

On a 900lb Moose, I want a hard cast bullet for lots of penetration. On a 180lb human, the bullet only has to get past the clothes/ribs, maybe 3-4" of penetration, to get to the heart/lungs, and the lungs aren't going to stop a bullet. Different performance requirement, for me.

A 22LR hollowpoint at 1,250fps does not hold a candle to the destructive power of a 22LR CCI Stinger at 1,640fps. Go shoot a few aluminum pop cans full of water, or any other 'reactive' target, to see the difference.

Liberty Ammunition loads very light bullets at very high velocities: 9mm, 50gr bullet at 2,000fps; 380, 50gr bullet at 1,500fps.

I place more emphasis on the bullet, than the cartridge, within reason.



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The .380 is the Almond Joy of calibers.

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the fire now has more nuts than knowledge. Kind of sad.

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if you own one and your on the fence, shoot it at some shyt and see what happens. Shot lots of pigs in the head with a S&W bodyguard 380 before pulling them out of the traps. they tend to just drop at the shot. if it will kills pigs at 3-4yds it should be fine for 2 legged vermin at the distances i'm worried about.

Ideal? no but not a doubt that its adequate.


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