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The 7x57 is more incredible than the 270.
It is less incredible than the 30-06. ^^^^^^^^^^
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I've not been very successful in hiding my respect and appreciation for the 7X57.
A pretty fair number of deer and antelope died quickly and cleanly from my 7X57's.
It's easy to load and shoot and very effective.
Glad to see that many here at the Fire have had the same experience.
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I've not been very successful in hiding my respect and appreciation for the 7X57.
A pretty fair number of deer and antelope died quickly and cleanly from my 7X57's.
It's easy to load and shoot and very effective.
Glad to see that many here at the Fire have had the same experience.
Steve
It does seem to get a lot of respect here on the 'fire. But, ironically, I don't think a single commercial rifle company, with the exception of some of the semi-custom firms (MRC, Dakota etc.), chamber it. Even the European companies that you would think would chamber it - Blaser, Merkel, Sako/Tikka, etc - don't; although they all chamber the 6.5x55, 8x57, and 7x64, among others. And all that in spite of the popularity given it by John B. and his Kilimanjaro, as well as Craig B. and that beautiful "stalking" Ramirez of his.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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With all due respect, concerning the 1903 Springfield being based on the M98 Mauser, I must disagree. Considering the design of the M93 Spanish Mauser, I believe the 03 was actually an improved version of that. The Springfield lacks the inner collar and the large ring of the M98. Just my opinion of course.
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Perhaps you have a point, but we still had to pay a royalty to the Mauser brothers for copying some facet of their rifles...
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The 7X57 is a fantastic cartridge, especially in today's loadings. But I'd probably go the the 7mm-08 today; it fits shorter actions (which saved=s a few ounces).
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Actually, Bell killed about 800 elephants with the 7X57, or what was referred to as the 275 Rigby. The new Lipsey offering of the #1A 275 Rigby is a very nice improvement over the older #1A 7x57. They come with a 24" bbl, red pad and rear express sight. A very nice set-up indeed. My only observation is that the comb is a bit high for using the open sights.
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The 7x57 is more incredible than the 270.
It is less incredible than the 30-06. ^^^^^^^^^^ None of which are NEARLY as incredible as the 6.5X55...
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Does anyone know of a current loading manual that has 7x57 loads for modern actions? I just bought the latest Nosler manual and it has even 175 gr bullets loaded faster in the 7mm08 than the 7x57. Of course, the 7mm08 was shot with a 26” barrel (??? Normal for a 7mm08 right) and the 7x57 in a 22”. But with the 7x57 having 10% more room, I would have expected it to do better with the heavy bullets.
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Supercub that24" barrel if the same contour would be a neat improvement. I like my 7x57 but always felt the1a barrels were a bit short.
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The new Lipsey offering of the #1A 275 Rigby is a very nice improvement over the older #1A 7x57. They come with a 24" bbl, red pad and rear express sight. A very nice set-up indeed. My only observation is that the comb is a bit high for using the open sights. Very happy with mine but I do need to update the scope from what I had on the shelf to something more trim. I also have a box of 140 gr Woodleighs that I need to play with. Of course, I did just acquire a NIB Ruger #1A in 6.5x55 so maybe I'm splitting hairs. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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You guys have me thinking again. I was looking for a light 308. Now I have this Bubba-Swede that has a pitted bore (yes I impulse buy them for under $100). Since I would only have to stock it and can put on my own inexpensive barrel, Hmm. Some will cry sacrilege not to go 6.5 x 55. However I don't think it's a sin to go 275 Rigby.
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Well Turk, there is the 4:1 Law...:)
And there is some excellent velocity guidance from the Nosler book. For example, the velocity for a 7mm-08 in 26" barrel could be substituted as a suitable target for a 24" 7-08AI velocity.
The 7mm-08AI and 7x57 are quite similar in case capacity...or more similar, anyway--I doubt you can get an extra 4g from an AI job on the 7-08 case. Thus, the 26" 7-08 velocity results from Nosler could be construed as velocity target for a 24" 7x57.
It could be fairly mild, relative to comparative pressures in a 270 for instance, depending on yer rifle...work up.
Berger sez 21fps loss/gain per barrel inch w/the 7-08 and 24 w/the 7/57.
fwiw...
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Just look at the thread title...
Some truths are self-evident. Ditto. From what little I know, I believe it's one of the most well balanced cartridges ever developed. Diameter, bullet weight capabilities, [AND STABILIZING THOSE BULLETS] case capacity, velocity, recoil, efficiency, length, hell, it's got it all.
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When you lot are finished sucking each other off you may wish to remember that it is just a cartridge like any other.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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touchy!
bit short on empathy this morning, eh? tough nite?
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And to be frank I am more interested in why the op continues to post the juvenile bait posts that he has been posting.
What is he up to.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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touchy!
bit short on empathy this morning, eh? tough nite? Nah, just finished spray painting the box trailer/cage and am feeling like a miserable mingy bastard, and since I am not game enough to pick on the wife (she-who-must-be-obeyed-or-else) I thought I should bring my ire here.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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being a family forum, I didn't want to ask if you hadn't been getting any...:)
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