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So you're saying you did a simple job -somewhat what Bob who worked in the eye clinic and you deserve a lifelong pension and benefits --ok then .

No, what I'm saying is that you are a f*cking idiot.

I'm sorry. This just sounds like class envy to me. Some folks have greater talents, higher skill levels, and deserve to be compensated for talents they have, and for performing jobs which few others could do.

Every one of these young people place their life on the line when they enlist, with no idea of where they will be called upon to serve.

If their pay was increased 80% in less than a decade as you claim......so what!

They are still rewarded far less than they should be for their service to this nation.

If a guy enlists at 17 and serves thirty years, he retires at 47 years. Good on him! He well deserves every penny of his retirement. I could not care less how much he makes from that retirement. And I certainly do not care what he earns in whatever 2'nd career he might choose to pursue.

I guess we could just forgo the whole idea of a volunteer military.

Draft every young person on their eighteenth birthday, make each one serve four years for room and board, then kick em to the curb to make their own way.

Are you ready to serve your four years for free?

So lets kill every vet so none of them can cheat the system. I'll make you a deal. You come to 14290 Marjorie Ln in Oregon City, OR and this cheating vet will might town on his 1911 if you have the balls to pull the trigger. My gun, my bullet, how much better deal can you ask for.

Only you would know "iron brain"

You obviously have no clue about the military or military life. In your example Bob signed on knowing he could be call at any time on any day to pick up a weapon and go the the front line. Everyone who took the military oath was putting his ass on the line no mater what job he happened to be assigned. My wife's uncle was a army company clerk in Korea and his enlistment ender. He was waiting to go home when he was handed a rifle and sent out at a place call Chosen. He is still there somewhere. But it does not count, he was just a company clerk.

My disability is not combat related. In fact I was in Washington DC when it happened. I suffer for it every day. I still served seven years active and seventeen years reserve.

I am waiting for you to come and pull the trigger so I will no longer be a burden to you pansy ass.

That's the 2nd most retarded thing I've ever seen. The 1st was someone sold you a computer.

ol_mike GFY

I earned my Army military retirement pay, even though my specialty by definition was a "non-combatant".

Soldiers (and Marines, Airmen, Sailors, and Coasties) do a hell of a lot more than get shot at, and the Services know a hell of a lot more than you ever will about what kind of personnel and specialties it takes to field and sustain the forces for National Defense and Power Projection.

By the way, ever heard of combat pay? hazardous duty pay? Combat zone tax exclusions? The personnel getting shot at already have some differential compensation available.

Yeah you'all are right , anybody who drives a bus around the base a few times them asks his commanding officer if he can go to the gym then get something to eat -then go to bed -that's what Jay told me he did and did it a lot.

OMGoodness it would be so funny to see awkward Bob try to handle a rifle , he would kill somebody -probably himself . He often laughed at what a joke his job was as did others .


No not a veteran , having a guy yell in my face wouldn't go over well with my personality .

Yeah I guess I'm jealous like idaho shooter said -never made much of myself -just built a bunch of houses and made 30 -40 --60 dollars at the closing . Semi-retired now although doing a little of this and that out of boredom -retiring is for the birds .

Scott F. you need some help -you're way off track.

Salute to all the fighting men in the Military all you paper shuffling seat shiners need to turn your check back in to the working people and get a job !!

Three cheers for my buddy Jeremy -he feels the same way I do ...

Well Mike, I think you're a frickin joke. Anytime you want to confront a seat shiner face to face, I'll take you up on it. You've never been in the military. EVERYBODY is a potential combatant. Not only that, a lot of us can run with the big dogs regarding the skills necessary to survive. You're a horse's ass.

ok Mike,you have to be one of lamest dicks that ever posted on any forum! You seem to think that because you were to stupid to make money, buy the waterfront property and enjoy retirement, others didn't earn what they have! What the hell held you back, drugs, criminal activity, or you just plain stupid? Or maybe your one of those who were afraid to take a step forward! It must really suck to, not be able too get past your own desperation! Hope you choke on your own hate, you dumbphuck!

Yeah Bob and Jay and many others sat around the base waiting for retirement -the fat black chick at the donut shop riding out six more years until retirement -wow what a warrior she was -I should have got her autograph .
While I did nothing more than build big new homes -semi-retired now -yep -a criminal -drughead -that's how I got my concealed carry and rifle suppressors .
You can't even read you dumbphuck .

I only knew one fat legged overweight female bum during my time in the service. That big ole' heifer could calibrate the microwave devices the fleet Sailors used to maintain their fire control radars to absolute precision.

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Good for her we need smart people in the military it's very high-tech .
What we don't need is people who aren't interested -don't put out and are waiting on their pension .
What we don't need is an over weight whatever color male or female saying " ohh --long breath -ohh I hate it but I got six more years before I can retire" . She has probably did as little as possible for a long time and is riding out one thing --PENSION .

Well,,,, I get that particular point...

You are the one wanting to take away the things we veterans have because we signed on the dotted line, then took an oath to put our lives on the line so that you could have your freedom to say we deserve nothing. I took that oath five times. I was just offering you the opportunity to put me down like an old dog so you would not have to pay. Sorry you are not man enough to take up my offer. But I kind of expected that from someone who was to lazy to serve.

See what you missed. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...r/11910807/gonew/1/In_memory,,,,,#UNREAD

But then you are the expert and know all about what it means to serve.

Old Mike,
You have no [bleep] clue. EVERY SINGLE PERSON who signed on the dotted line is worldwide deployable to whatever combat zone they decide to throw us into. Your friend the bus driver is an example. Ever driven a bus around a base that's being shelled? Many supposedly non combatants have been killed and wounded in these "wars" that we have been in for the last 3 decades. Ever been in a Humvee that hit an IED while you were going to your non combat job? I have and I have the scars to prove it. I earned every damned penny of my retirement.

[bleep] you!

Rob,
MSgt, USAF, Retired

These some of the seat shiners you're bitchin about?

Sept 11, 2001 Pentagon Casualties:

Spc. Craig Amundson, 28, Fort Belvoir, Va.
Melissa Rose Barnes, 27, Redlands, Calif.
(Retired) Master Sgt. Max Beilke, 69, Laurel, Md.
Kris Romeo Bishundat, 23, Waldorf, Md.
Carrie Blagburn, 48, Temple Hills, Md.
Lt. Col. Canfield D. Boone, 54, Clifton, Va.
Donna Bowen, 42, Waldorf, Md.
Allen Boyle, 30, Fredericksburg, Va.
Christopher Lee Burford, 23, Hubert, N.C.
Daniel Martin Caballero, 21, Houston, Texas
Sgt. 1st Class Jose Orlando Calderon-Olmedo, 44, Annandale, Va.
Angelene C. Carter, 51, Forrestville, Md.
Sharon Carver, 38, Waldorf, Md.
John J. Chada, 55, Manassas, Va.
Rosa Maria (Rosemary) Chapa, 64, Springfield, Va.
Julian Cooper, 39, Springdale, Md.
Lt. Cmdr. Eric Allen Cranford, 32, Drexel, N.C.
Ada M. Davis, 57, Camp Springs, Md.
Capt. Gerald Francis Deconto, 44, Sandwich, Mass.
Lt. Col. Jerry Don Dickerson, 41, Durant, Miss.
Johnnie Doctor, 32, Jacksonville, Fla.
Capt. Robert Edward Dolan, 43, Alexandria, Va.
Cmdr. William Howard Donovan, 37, Nunda, N.Y.
Cmdr. Patrick S. Dunn, 39, Springfield, Va.
Edward Thomas Earhart, 26, Salt Lick, Ky.
Lt. Cmdr. Robert Randolph Elseth, 37, Vestal, N.Y.
Jamie Lynn Fallon, 23, Woodbridge, Va.
Amelia V. Fields, 36, Dumfries, Va.
Gerald P. Fisher, 57, Potomac, Md.
Matthew Michael Flocco, 21, Newark, Del.
Sandra N. Foster, 41, Clinton, Md.
Capt. Lawrence Daniel Getzfred, 57, Elgin, Neb.
Cortz Ghee, 54, Reisterstown, Md.
Brenda C. Gibson, 59, Falls Church, Va.
Ron Golinski, 60, Columbia, Md.
Diane M. Hale-McKinzy, 38, Alexandria, Va.
Carolyn B. Halmon, 49, Washington, D.C.
Sheila Hein, 51, University Park, Md.
Ronald John Hemenway, 37, Shawnee, Kan.
Maj. Wallace Cole Hogan, 40, Fla.
Jimmie Ira Holley, 54, Lanham, Md.
Angela Houtz, 27, La Plata, Md.
Brady K. Howell, 26, Arlington, Va.
Peggie Hurt, 36, Crewe, Va.
Lt. Col. Stephen Neil Hyland, 45, Burke, Va.
Robert J. Hymel, 55, Woodbridge, Va.
Sgt. Maj. Lacey B. Ivory, 43, Woodbridge, Va.
Lt. Col. Dennis M. Johnson, 48, Port Edwards, Wis.
Judith Jones, 53, Woodbridge, Va.
Brenda Kegler, 49, Washington, D.C.
Lt. Michael Scott Lamana, 31, Baton Rouge, La.
David W. Laychak, 40, Manassas, Va.
Samantha Lightbourn-Allen, 36, Hillside, Md.
Maj. Steve Long, 39, Ga.
James Lynch, 55, Manassas, Va.
Terence M. Lynch, 49, Alexandria, Va.
Nehamon Lyons, 30, Mobile, Ala.
Shelley A. Marshall, 37, Marbury, Md.
Teresa Martin, 45, Stafford, Va.
Ada L. Mason, 50, Springfield, Va.
Lt. Col. Dean E. Mattson, 57, Calif.
Lt. Gen. Timothy J. Maude, 53, Fort Myer, Va.
Robert J. Maxwell, 53, Manassas, Va.
Molly McKenzie, 38, Dale City, Va.
Patricia E. (Patti) Mickley, 41, Springfield, Va.
Maj. Ronald D. Milam, 33, Washington, D.C.
Gerard (Jerry) P. Moran, 39, Upper Marlboro, Md.
Odessa V. Morris, 54, Upper Marlboro, Md.
Brian Anthony Moss, 34, Sperry, Okla.
Ted Moy, 48, Silver Spring, Md.
Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Jude Murphy, 38, Flossmoor, Ill.
Khang Nguyen, 41, Fairfax, Va.
Michael Allen Noeth, 30, New York, N.Y.
Diana Borrero de Padro, 55, Woodbridge, Va.
Spc. Chin Sun Pak, 25, Lawton, Okla.
Lt. Jonas Martin Panik, 26, Mingoville, Pa.
Maj. Clifford L. Patterson, 33, Alexandria, Va.
Lt. J.G. Darin Howard Pontell, 26, Columbia, Md.
Scott Powell, 35, Silver Spring, Md.
(Retired) Capt. Jack Punches, 51, Clifton, Va.
Joseph John Pycior, 39, Carlstadt, N.J.
Deborah Ramsaur, 45, Annandale, Va.
Rhonda Rasmussen, 44, Woodbridge, Va.
Marsha Dianah Ratchford, 34, Prichard, Ala.
Martha Reszke, 36, Stafford, Va.
Cecelia E. Richard, 41, Fort Washington, Md.
Edward V. Rowenhorst, 32, Lake Ridge, Va.
Judy Rowlett, 44, Woodbridge, Va.
Robert E. Russell, 52, Oxon Hill, Md.
William R. Ruth, 57, Mount Airy, Md.
Charles E. Sabin, 54, Burke, Va.
Marjorie C. Salamone, 53, Springfield, Va.
Lt. Col. David M. Scales, 44, Cleveland, Ohio
Cmdr. Robert Allan Schlegel, 38, Alexandria, Va.
Janice Scott, 46, Springfield, Va.
Michael L. Selves, 53, Fairfax, Va.
Marian Serva, 47, Stafford, Va.
Cmdr. Dan Frederic Shanower, 40, Naperville, Ill.
Antoinette Sherman, 35, Forest Heights, Md.
Don Simmons, 58, Dumfries, Va.
Cheryle D. Sincock, 53, Dale City, Va.
Gregg Harold Smallwood, 44, Overland Park, Kan.
(Retired) Lt. Col. Gary F. Smith, 55, Alexandria, Va.
Patricia J. Statz, 41, Takoma Park, Md.
Edna L. Stephens, 53, Washington, D.C.
Sgt. Maj. Larry Strickland, 52, Woodbridge, Va.
Maj. Kip P. Taylor, 38, McLean, Va.
Sandra C. Taylor, 50, Alexandria, Va.
Karl W. Teepe, 57, Centreville, Va.
Sgt. Tamara Thurman, 25, Brewton, Ala.
Lt. Cmdr. Otis Vincent Tolbert, 38, Lemoore, Calif.
Willie Q. Troy, 51, Aberdeen, Md.
Lt. Cmdr. Ronald James Vauk, 37, Nampa, Idaho
Lt. Col. Karen Wagner, 40, Houston, Texas
Meta L. Waller, 60, Alexandria, Va.
Staff Sgt. Maudlyn A. White, 38, St. Croix, Virgin Islands
Sandra L. White, 44, Dumfries, Va.
Ernest M. Willcher, 62, North Potomac, Md.
Lt. Cmdr. David Lucian Williams, 32, Newport, Ore.
Maj. Dwayne Williams, 40, Jacksonville, Ala.
Marvin R. Woods, 57, Great Mills, Md.
Kevin Wayne Yokum, 27, Lake Charles, La.
Donald McArthur Young, 41, Roanoke, Va.
Lisa L. Young, 36, Germantown, Md.
Edmond Young, 22, Owings, Md.

I served a total of 24 years and have no PENSION. But I must be wrong as you know more about it than I do.

BTW, how many hours have you spent working in freezing cold up to your chest in water with a hundred feet of water above you and in pitch black? How many hours have you waited in that same freezing cold in that same pitch black at decompression stops? How much do you know about the effects of prolonged hypothermia every day for months at a time?

You say you don't have the personality to learn discipline. That isn't something to brag about. But you are right, those who did learn about discipline deserve to be screwed out of everything even though you still have your rights because of those who did.

Nothing more fun than seeing a hack trolling for more gunsmithing help.

I'm glad a real smith volunteered to do the BobinNH commemorative rifle.