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The joke is told of the contest between God and the devil. Satan says to God, “I bet I can make a human being just as well as you can.” Should you be mocking Gods own divine will creation, that being the Devil? Christians often complain about the devil and all the 'evil' in this world, but according to scripture such only exists due to Gods own will...how about christians show some heart-felt appreciation for what God has given you?.. God could have destroyed the fallen Lucifer, but instead he gave him rule of the earth and its inhabitants...If you roll back further, God knowingly created an arch Angel destined to fall and create havoc in both Heaven and on earth.
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God knowingly created an arch Angel destined to fall and create havoc in both Heaven and on earth. He also created us with the free will to believe or not. He could have done it different, and made it without choice. We Humans can not understand His plan. miles
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He also created us with the free will to believe or not.
Just 'believing' is not enough. and yes free will, but God already knew all people would fail him, in fact everybody is a sinner and failure in Gods eyes. Those who will repent and those won't who repent, was already known by God even before they or their ancestors were born. We Humans can not understand His plan.
Many on 24CF have purported to know God, ...some even talk like a judge, jury and executioner appointed by God.
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God knowingly created an arch Angel destined to fall and create havoc in both Heaven and on earth. He also created us with the free will to believe or not. He could have done it different, and made it without choice. We Humans can not understand His plan. miles Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. Well, i guess i should say, the really smart folks who lean onto their own understanding and reject belief and faith. They considering only the physical aspect of life while rejecting and denying the spiritual aspect. "Be not forgetful to provide for strangers; for therefore many have entertained angels unaware."
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Guess I'm not going to get my blade of grass...
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Guess I'm not going to get my blade of grass... Just got a couple million for you.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. See what I mean?...people on 24CF who claim to know God and what he's planning and thinking. "Be not forgetful to provide for strangers; for therefore many have entertained angels unaware."
Imagine those strangers and angels gathering with the Bibles talking donkey and talking plants. what would the topic be?
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. See what I mean?...people on 24CF who claim to know God and what he's thinking. Look at all who claim to talk to him on a regular basis, but hear many different messages.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.) and why would a loving compassionate Jesus want weak misguided humans led astray? Isn't it the role of Jesus to gather the lost & scattered to his flock?
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He also created us with the free will to believe or not.
Just 'believing' is not enough. and yes free will, but God already knew all people would fail him, in fact everybody is a sinner and failure in Gods eyes. Those who will repent and those won't who repent, was already known by God even before they or their ancestors were born. We Humans can not understand His plan.
Many on 24CF have purported to know God, ...some even talk like a judge, jury and executioner appointed by God. Not a failure, just human. We make mistakes, sure, but we also make the right choice every once in awhile. I like to think that God celebrates our good choices. I'm a dad, and that has helped me in my quest to come closer to (I never will, of course, but I can get closer) understanding God. I love my boy to a depth that's hard to believe. I feel great when I see him make good choices and I'm sad when he makes bad choices, but I love him just the same regardless. I think God looks at us in much the same way. P
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.) and why would a loving compassionate Jesus want weak misguided humans led astray? Isn't it the role of Jesus to gather the lost & scattered to his flock? And why would it be that the more scientific education a person has, the less they belief theistic claims?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.) and why would a loving compassionate Jesus want weak misguided humans led astray? Isn't it the role of Jesus to gather the lost & scattered to his flock? I think you couldn't be more wrong. We have an amazing capacity for wonderful acts, but also an awful potential for unspeakable savagery. It's what we choose that makes the difference. Do we choose to feed the evil beast inside us all, or do we choose to deny the evil and embrace compassion, benevolence, and love? God didn't create us to be fools, that's just an insult to both God and His creation. I get it, though, I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine, and that's okay. P
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And why would it be that the more scientific education a person has, the less they belief theistic claims?
As a pharmaceutical rep I talk to a lot of doctors every day. Most of them believe in God. I think they have a heightened appreciation for the complexity of the human body and have a hard time believing that we developed from primordial ooze. P
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.) and why would a loving compassionate Jesus want weak misguided humans led astray? Isn't it the role of Jesus to gather the lost & scattered to his flock? I think you couldn't be more wrong. We have an amazing capacity for wonderful acts, but also an awful potential for unspeakable savagery. It's what we choose that makes the difference. Do we choose to feed the evil beast inside us all, or do we choose to deny the evil and embrace compassion, benevolence, and love? God didn't create us to be fools, that's just an insult to both God and His creation. I get it, though, I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine, and that's okay. P We can agree on your first paragraph, just not your second.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.) and why would a loving compassionate Jesus want weak misguided humans led astray? Isn't it the role of Jesus to gather the lost & scattered to his flock? I think you couldn't be more wrong. We have an amazing capacity for wonderful acts, but also an awful potential for unspeakable savagery. It's what we choose that makes the difference. Do we choose to feed the evil beast inside us all, or do we choose to deny the evil and embrace compassion, benevolence, and love? God didn't create us to be fools, that's just an insult to both God and His creation. I get it, though, I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine, and that's okay. P We can agree on your first paragraph, just not your second. Works for me. And here's a pic of a couple of antelope I sniped: P
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As a pharmaceutical rep I talk to a lot of doctors every day. Most of them believe in God. I think they have a heightened appreciation for the complexity of the human body and have a hard time believing that we developed from primordial ooze.
P For you to imply that you're an authority on the religious beliefs of physicians is absurd and dishonest.
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Simple. He wanted the stupid suckers to be led astray. See what I mean?...people on 24CF who claim to know God and what he's planning and thinking. "Be not forgetful to provide for strangers; for therefore many have entertained angels unaware."
Imagine those strangers and angels gathering with the Bibles talking donkey and talking plants. what would the topic be? Cant handle a joke, huh?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Not a failure, just human... I like to think that God celebrates our good choices.
When you transgress you have erred and failed God, if you were not a failure in Gods eyes you wouldn't require his grace.
All humans are fools engaged in folly in Gods eyes, (yes that includes you.)
I think you couldn't be more wrong... You are not disagreeing with me , you are disagreeing with the word of God. 1 Corinthians 18 "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain."
God didn't create us to be fools, that's just an insult to both God and His creation. Scripture indicates different. By the word of God you are a fool yet your vanity won't allow you to acknowledge it. Proverbs 18:2 "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion".
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We have an amazing capacity for wonderful acts, but also an awful potential for unspeakable savagery. It's what we choose that makes the difference. Do we choose to feed the evil beast inside us all, or do we choose to deny the evil and embrace compassion, benevolence, and love? Try as much as you might with what in your human opinion are wonderful acts, but you will never meet the std. required to be worthy of God. And try as much as you might, but you as a human cannot avoid the evil beast inside yourself from influencing parts of your life in one way or another and to some degree or another. You are an unworthy sinner just the same as every other worm human past, present or future. What you may consider as good works or wonderful acts, are just folly, and do not find you or anyone else favor with God.
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Guess I'm not going to get my blade of grass... I'm sold.
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