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Then how is it you seem so unaware of what the theory of Evolution claims? I get that you don't believe that Evolution is real but If you don't get the claims right, how can you argue against Evolution with any semblance of intelligence?

But then again, neither has any religion, including Christianity, produced an amoeba. Praying one into existence would be very cool. I've a sealed, sterile Petri dish. Pray one into it if you can.

Im a scientist. I know how it happened, bro. We had all these gasses and chemicals (just the right mix, of course) and elements. And then, you know, when all this chitt was lined up just right there was this bolt of fuggin lightening and suddenly
There was this little critter with DNA, cell walls, mitochondria, cell walls, ribosomes , etc and on top of that, it had, something weird that had never existed before. It was invisible. It had something nothing in history had ever had. It had Life. And, and this life wanted to make a long and arduous journey millions of years down the road, so it could become an ashes to ashes and dust to dust, AS.

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HE did.

See my edit above. Just because you said "He did" does not make it so.

Are you eyeball? You remind me of him.


How is it you seem unaware that the theory of Evolution has nothing to say about first life.

What science are you a scientist for?

Petri dish is still empty and sterile.

Some christians were praying in the African section not long ago, thinking that it would change the reality that the deceased
was being digested by a crocodile. How did that work out?...anyone that naive may as well believe in rain dances...

Unicellular structures had never existed before. Life had never existed before. Viola, i think a big figgin bang happened and created both at the same fuggin time and same fuggin microscopic spot in the whole fuggin universe.

Us scientists can feed that idea to the great unwashed and, without thinking, it will become the idea of the universe.

Ha. You talk about fuggin gullible.

Ha. This chitt blew up and we ended up with dna and ribonucleac acid inside this fuggin mucopolysacharride cell wall. Suddenly, explosions create order and symmetry. Explosions put things together in an order rather than destroying things and causing destruction and disorder. Yeah.

Explosions in the universe can and do contribute to a stable order.

Elements, from carbon to iron, were formed by fusion reactions in the cores of stars. Some elements involve neutron capture. A nuclei can capture
or fuse with a neutron because the neutron is electrically neutral and, therefore, not repulsed like the proton. Each neutron capture produces an
isotope, some of which are stable.

The sun which we rely on, is actually conducting nuclear fusion explosions to supply us with a relatively stable reliable supply of energy.
without those explosions which you consider of no value, you are screwed.

C12,

You could be right.

He does sound like that banned racist.

Jaguartx: I believe I would let them go their way and not entertain them anymore. Let life work on them awhile. If they don't come around it won't be your fault. You have said all you can say. They are sneering and having fun. You have done all you can do. I do not believe arguing at this point is accomplishing anything at all. We can and should pray earnestly for this situation. Remember Matthew 5:16, "Let your light shine". Who knows there may come a day when they "glorify your Father which is in heaven".

On a side note I believe that a lot of people's atheism and agnosticism comes from their observations of the charlatans, quacks, and money grubbing hypocrites that have represented themselves as christian holy men over the centuries and right on up until today. Nothing new with that. These are the very people that pushed Pilate into executing Jesus (after Pilate judged him NOT GUILTY) and represented themselves as the finest holy men of God and were the church leaders of their day. It is easy to see how a person could look at these greedy fakes today and say, I do not want anything to do with this. That can happen if a person doesn't take time himself to read what Jesus had to say to the generation he visited in person. There are some parts of the Bible that are rather extraneous but I take very seriously Jesus' words. And God, and John the Baptist.




















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Here's a simple example for you.

Yeast cells can divide every 5 minutes. That's 300 generations everyday. In about a day one yeast cell can result in 2.037036e+90 yeast cells.

That's a lot of opportunities for mutation, and that's just one day. Now consider the billion of years the forces of natural selections had to operate.

Have you decided if the earth is thousands of billions of years old yet?

Yeah, the similarities are getting more overt lately. Not so much racist but exhibiting two online personas. There is the somewhat rational personae and that of a blathering bar drunk.

Shush.

Besides, your advice will just fall on deaf ears.

Starman - here's the new look. You must be more dense in the head than your usual nastybaiters who seek enjoyment by trying to offend others. To "imply" is to "hint' or "suggest" without direct statement. In order to conjure any specific implication from that, the receiver must "infer" the meaning - that would be you and your mind reading inferences.

Your phony mind reading is further illuminated by the fact that you know nothing whatsoever about me, but yet are so silly as to state that goofy mythology and lack of real world education is my problem. Where did you buy the supernatural power to discern the knowledge content and ostensible problems of a person you know not at all?

In the same vein, and from what you have implied, one must infer that you are a self-loathing, very unhappy and sadistic individual that can gain joy only by claiming super qualities you do not possess and by trying to offend those unlike you. No whacko mind involved - you implied it all.

Paul,

Do you have one PHD, or Two, or is it One PHD and an MD?

oh jeez, here we go again, and it just goes on and on and on.

the facts are: according to the theologians, the anthropologists, the philosophers, the psychologists, the physicists, the astro-biologists, and various others is the true commonality: we don't know where we are, we don't know from whence we came, and most certainly we don't know where we are headed next.

once we can find common ground, if ever, then the skies might open, the sun shines in, and folks can dance happily around the maypole. until then, it's just discussion, negotiation, and speculation.

i'd like to see some ldrshp. it appears to be in rather short supply. but life does go on.

again, christians have implied through written or spoken words, no 'mind reading' (as you keep foolishly suggesting) was involved.

to put it simply, Reading words is NOT reading minds. . yet you keep foolishly insisting it is.

Gus,

You forgot Astrologers.