Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Purpose of a full-length "Mannlicher" forend? Disadvantages?

Chrome, I remember your post when you bought that rifle, a 257 roberts if I am not mistaken. That's a gret looking rifle, nice GA deer too. What part of GA do you hunt?

Weagle, what cartridge is your rifle chambered to? I see you are in Atlanta, I lived there for 15 years (dunwoody) and moved to Tallahassee, FL 4 years ago. I hunt in Pulaski Co, just southeast of Macon. Nice looking rifle.

"an entirly different breed of rifle loonies; those who carry and use rifle daily"

so, what's that supposed to mean, the professional hunters or the traveling sportsmen? Certainly can not mean those of us who collect, handload, shoot and hunt as much as we can.

From what I gather, the "Weatherby Award" chasing crowd is more focused on book heads and typically only own one rifle, maybe two. My observastion of the PHs is that their guns are tools and if they work as they should, then they dont think about them much.

257Bob--

Then you have been hanging around the wrong PH's (and brown bear outfitters).....

Phil,

I will be flying in Wednesday afternoon at 3:30, and don't actually know if I'll make it to the convention that evening between getting to my hotel (something called the Celebrity Resorts Reno--maybe I'll get a look at somebody famous, though at $70 a night I doubt it!).

Maybe we should try meeting at D'Arcy's booth just before noon on Thursday. That way we can "do lunch" and talk of many things.

JB

Mule Deer,

I like and respect Phil and really enjoy his writing but I did think his comment was a slap in the face to those of us that pontificate at the campfire.

Also, with all due respect, then would you say that most PHs are rifle loonies as well, always looking for the next new thing, constantly trying different actions, cartridges and bullets, scopes just because it is something they enjoy? That's not the impression I have.

From what I have read of Phil's work, it appears that he has a keen interest in rifles and cartridges based on his experience and line of work but I would not have thought of him as a "Loonie" based on the experiences I have seen on this board.

I will admit I may have fit the description of a loonie at one time but I think I am over that. I know what I like and have experimented enough to know that it's still hard to beat a 270 win or 30-06 for general purpose stuff. I read every magazine I could get my hands on, loaded every 6.5 I could find, tried a few wildcats here and there and took a truck load of rifles to the range every time I had the chance. I have culled about 60% of the rifles from the herd and still dont have time to use most of them. I try to use a different one each weekend but that's hard enough (some still did not make it hunting this year). I 'm lucky to get a shot as I mainly guide for my young sons. I did manage to shoot one deer this year, the 7mm rem mag just happened to be on call.

Honestly, I enjoy all things rifle related but at some point, you just run out of time and energy to continue to chase the next best thing when the one you have in the safe works just fine.

What you really hope for is the time to use the stuff that you already own.

257Bob

JB, Good to hear you are going to be in Reno and hope you can stop by the Show where guys work on guns everyday but don't neccesarily hunt with them. Just show a business card at the door for a press pass, or ask for me.
I've already invited Phil & Taj to an informal 'makers get together at the 7:PM Thursday, he knows the location. Good folks, good time!

As for the topic, it's interesting to note that half-stocked guns didn't really come into favor until the late 18th century with the popularity of sxs doubles and detachable barrrel breeches. For the first couple of centuries, most long guns had full stocks.

In the US, the half stock really caught on with the Trade Rifles

Bob, Rifle loonies are rifle loonies but those of us who carry rifles daily or use them in their line of work often develop more pragmatic leanings. No offense meant.
Steve, will look foreward to getting together again.

Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time finding any fault with Mr. Shoemaker's remark(s) on rifle loonies of different stripes.

I am a rifle looney that rarely hunts, shoot alot but I have two daughters that are 2 and 5 years old. My time is dedicated to them. They have lots of guns though. We, as a family, hunt lots of jackrabbits on our farm, but the bears and elk will have to wait a few years. I have a custom shop Remington Mannlicher Model Seven on the way for my youngest daughter chambered in .250 Savage. Some day I hope she takes a nice Arizona muledeer with it!!

257Bob--

Some PH's and outfitters are rifle loonies, some are not. And I have little correlation between "knowing" that a .30-06 will do anything needed to being practical enough to stick to one!

I think Phil was just trying to point out that even some professional hunters are rifle loonies, and that they do tend to select rifles for everyday use on certain practical needs. But that doesn't mean they don't own other rifles that aren't so practical, either!

Steve--

I had planned to get by the "other" show. Maybe I'll slip by on Thursday afternoon (after which some earlier business meetings will be done) and join the crowd that evening. My only other evening engagement is on Friday night, essentially a business dinner.

JB

westerner:

Don't hear much about those at the 'fire. I hope you'll post something about it after you've had a chance to shoot it a while.

- TJM

I got nuthin to say so here is a pic.

and another

Nice.

Details?

COOL!!!
Good Wood!!!!

Don

John, the Guild Show doesn't open until Friday at noon. Very much look forward to seeing you, Phil and Taj. Last time I saw Taj he was sitting behind his girlfriend in a Super Cup flying over my head at about 50'. Phil was right behind them piloting his Super "camper" Cub.
James Tucker, Ralf Martini, maybe Jerry Fisher & Jim Karkhuff and others will be at the thursday dinner. 7:pm at the Legacy oyster bar.
Sorry for the hi-jak!

7mm mauser on a swedish action and stepped military barrel.

likes 100 gr Hornady's

I found a Sako mannlicher in 375 H&H. Off to go pick it up now . . .

Good medicine...
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Don

Good caliber!!! Da best... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Don