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Using high levels of carbs as you suggest ..... Not much different from recommending steroids, in that way, really.
Who suggested high levels of carbs? When, how, and in the amounted/kind needed. It's pretty simple science for recovery, nothing debunked, only supported...again, this isn't some carb-loading crap, it's providing immediate fuel quickly to facilitate recovery and an anabolic state for muscle growth. There is no health downside to this, it is beneficial to your body. You drawing a parallel to steriods use is right in line with the rest of your reasoning.... You're still arguing about the general public rather than an individual that has a specific anabolic need....which is the opposite of the general public who are gaining weight and inactive.
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In my personal experience, for a fit guy deliberately training to gain strength (and weight) who lacks the means to a chef and dietician, you take your caloric surplus however you can get it, in the form of six large meals per day. There's no magic bullet, and it won't all be "clean".
Once at a desired weight, then training and diet is balanced in order to perform. For all-day high-output, that means eating fat/protein/low glycemic index carb regular meals, and in between every couple hours eating some mixed low GI and high GI carbs (biased toward low GI).
For low daily caloric burn and no strength training, limit the amount and glycemic index of carbs, and don't eat fake food.
None of this is that difficult.
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The final recipe is: 1/3 cup oatmeal 3 eggs 2 bananas 2 tbsp avocado oil 2 cups kefir or milk
Makes a quart and is good for right about 1,000 calories. I've gained 10lbs with it so far.
Last edited by BarryC; 05/23/17.
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When I was doing the cancer/radiation thing, they had me drinking Ensure drinks for calories.
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I can smell food and gain weight.
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BarryC,
Glad you have found an effective supplement for your weight gain needs. I'll bet that drink tastes just as bad as I imagine. Instead of whipping up something nasty in your blender, you could simply drink a half gallon of organic whole milk (I've tried many and the best tasting to me is Horizon) every day. This is the diet of all mammals (with some variation based on species) when gaining weight is job one. Some people are lactose intolerant, I understand that, but if you are not, this will work just fine.
Cheers, RS
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I'll send you my diet for losing weight. I'm following it and I'm getting heavier....?
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I do a physically demanding job now and I've calculated that I need at least 1,500 extra calories/day to maintain weight. Any recipes for shakes/drinks that DO NOT include commercial preparations? I'm thinking of something like blending 2 cups of Kefir, 1/4 cup oatmeal, 1 banana, 2 whole eggs, 1 tbsp of avocado oil and some vanilla.
Any luck incorporating healthy oils in something like this? Thoughts on the eggs? I tried to eat whole eggs in a milk shot one time and they came out looking exactly like they did going in. You may want to consider your cholesterol numbers and the amount of that you are getting. I would probably consult a dietician, they could help you find the right mix.
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It tastes pretty darn good. I add some vanilla extract to it when I use plain kefir, or use flavored kefir.
It's basically egg nog.
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It tastes pretty darn good. I add some vanilla extract to it when I use plain kefir, or use flavored kefir.
It's basically egg nog. Egg Nog is a weakness of mine. If I let myself loose, I'd gain 30 pounds during eggnog season. HEB stores here make the best. It barely pours it's so thick! Liquid custard!
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