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How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? #12312809 10/04/17
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816 T toltecgriz OP Campfire Ranger
OP toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	Does anyone know the distance? Last edited by toltecgriz; 10/04/17. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

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Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312817 10/04/17
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,966 Colorado A antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana
antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,966 Colorado	About 400 yards. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? antelope_sniper #12312825 10/04/17
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida	Yes. About 400. Shooter was about 100yds above the earth. Dave Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312840 10/04/17
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 47,140 south texas-Corpus Christi stxhunter Campfire 'Bwana
stxhunter Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 47,140 south texas-Corpus Christi	chip shot for what he was doing. God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312841 10/04/17
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816 T toltecgriz OP Campfire Ranger
OP toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	Ok, thanks. I needed a little perspective. If my geometry is correct that would be about 412 yards line of sight. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

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Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312850 10/04/17
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida	Yep. Give or take. Dave Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312854 10/04/17
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816 T toltecgriz OP Campfire Ranger
OP toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	I don't want to be morbid but I'm guessing he wan't sighted in for that range with all those rifles. My thinking is he was just spraying. I don't think I'll say any more. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312866 10/04/17
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,966 Colorado A antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana
antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,966 Colorado	Originally Posted by toltecgriz I don't want to be morbid but I'm guessing he wan't sighted in for that range with all those rifles. My thinking is he was just spraying. I don't think I'll say any more. Just because he was spraying, doesn't mean he didn't know how to sight in a rifle. Do not presume that because someone is evil they are necessarily stupid. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312936 10/04/17
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816 T toltecgriz OP Campfire Ranger
OP toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,816	I'm not thinking he didn't know how to sight in nor that he is stupid. Like most others I am just struggling with the whole scenario. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312939 10/04/17
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,034 SW Montana V VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger
VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger V Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,034 SW Montana	Toltecgriz: I saw a professional looking diagram today that showed the distance being 1,100' from the murderers window to the first of the people in the crowd. A crowd of 22,000 people, sadly, is a big target. Sad. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy

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Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312943 10/04/17
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 70 Lake Clark, AK AKtrapper26 Campfire Greenhorn
AKtrapper26 Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 70 Lake Clark, AK	That is a big (huuuuuge) target...but even so, hitting an average of 51.5 people per minute and sustaining that average across almost ten minutes?....(and however often he was hitting the same person 3, 4, 5, times isn't accounted for in that number.) I'd say that squirrel wasn't entirely blind... Last edited by AKtrapper26; 10/04/17. Decide that you want it more than you are afraid of it.

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312946 10/04/17
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deerstalker Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 14,042 North of Bonners Ferry ID.	remember guys it was night. if he was sighting it was at movement . lot of spraying i would expect unless he had nightvision scope. the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312950 10/04/17
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 40,179 wasilla ak watch4bear Campfire 'Bwana
watch4bear Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 40,179 wasilla ak	The guy hit fuel tanks 700 yards away. He was spraying bullets all over hell Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?" Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals." MOLON LABE

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312952 10/04/17
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana M MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger
MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana	Seems like he was just hosing down an area target doing the bump-fire thing. Thought I saw a Bushnell holosight on one of the ARs.

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312965 10/04/17
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700LH Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 24,379	Shooting down at about a 40 degree angle 400 yards away into 22,000 people into a area the size in front of that stage, it is going to be about like first reports said "shooting fish in a barrel." \ Yes, thanks, 15 is much closer to correct. Last edited by 700LH; 10/04/17.

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312969 10/04/17
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana M MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger
MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana	I'd think is downward angle would be closer to 15 degrees. He was about 100 yards up, shooting about 400 yards distant.

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312975 10/04/17
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular
nifty-two-fifty Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,540 Far Northstate Calif	A lot of those victims were being hit with ricochets, pass throughs, and fragments,also. Fish in a barrel is a pretty good description, too, at least at the beginning. Nifty-250 "If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else". Yogi Berra

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312977 10/04/17
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,196 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,196 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	Looking on GoogleEarth it does not look like 400 yds except to most distant area. It appears much of the area is much closer than 400. FWIW. If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: How far from the shooter to the concert crwd? toltecgriz #12312992 10/04/17
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana M MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger
MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,068 Canyon Ferry, Montana	I was measuring it on google maps. I got 353 yards from the shooters corner of the hotel, to the front center of the stage. Looks like the crowd could go back another 150-200 yards or so.

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