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Barska. Cheaper than most hammers, good for nothing else, and recyclable, too. But could you get one peg in before the Barska caved? Use one of their "tacti-fool" tank versions, to hedge the bet. And, only one way to find out...
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Use one of their "tacti-fool" tank versions, to hedge the bet. And, only one way to find out... Ouch.
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I'm thinking alot of these optical scientists don't hunt much or would rather discuss far-out theoretical situations concerning optics than actually go out and use them in the field. JM
There's a handful that constantly get asked to put up picts of their excellent adventures where a Leupold simply won't or would not have cut it....the response is always the same: Well. Don't want to get lumped in with the "handful" buuuuuut... this was my buck from last season and he was the epitome of a low light deer. It was right on the edge of what my 1.8-5.5 Conquest could do. From my backyard comparison tests I know for a fact that this scope goes "deeper" than a Leup 2.5-8 by several minutes. So it's not a stretch to say I'd have not gotten this buck if I'd still been using a 2.5-8 Leup (a scope I like very much btw). So there.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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Quit night shooting them Jeff, No hunting scope works at night. I'm sure there are legitimate differences and certain applications where one brand holds an advantage over another. I guess the thing is to buy what bests fits your particular needs. My comment above was how we sometimes assign things like cryo treated erector parts the same level of importance as eye box friendliness, resolution and eye relief, etc. The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important. JM
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The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important.
JM You mean gimmicks like EXtended twlight lens systems. Eletroform reticles. Second generation waterproofing. Is that what you mean,stuff like that? dave
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Jeff,
I hope you get a camera for Christmas.
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The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important.
JM You mean gimmicks like EXtended twlight lens systems. Eletroform reticles. Second generation waterproofing. Is that what you mean,stuff like that? dave
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Quit night shooting them Jeff, No hunting scope works at night. I'm sure there are legitimate differences and certain applications where one brand holds an advantage over another. I guess the thing is to buy what bests fits your particular needs. My comment above was how we sometimes assign things like cryo treated erector parts the same level of importance as eye box friendliness, resolution and eye relief, etc. The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important. JM Lol, he was shot in legal light- though it was indeed DARK. "Last legal" is a clock thing. Sometimes last legal is still quite bright, sometimes it's too dark to shoot well before last legal. Even with the mighty 1.8-5.5 Conquest <grin>. Yeah Deflave my cell camera and little flashlight didn't do so well. Agree with the meat of your post JM.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important.
JM You mean gimmicks like EXtended twlight lens systems. Eletroform reticles. Second generation waterproofing. Is that what you mean,stuff like that? dave The pic says it all. No one is bashing Leupy Dave....but thanks for making my point anyway.
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The marketing gimmicks sometimes cloud what's important.
JM You mean gimmicks like EXtended twlight lens systems. Eletroform reticles. Second generation waterproofing. Is that what you mean,stuff like that? dave
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Here’s a classic optics forum thread.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Christmas is coming and I am putting in my order now.
I want these two items to show up on shelves.
3x scope
8x42 scope that is the same length and weight as a 6x42.
Thanks Yes I’d like to see a fixed 8 and 10x as well
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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This thread has 460,000+ views.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Judman: If you are interested in a Leupold straight 10 power scope my local pawn/gun shop has an original on consignment for sale! This scope is absolutely MINT PERFECT with NO ring marks or blemishes what so ever anywhere on it! It has the cool CPC crosshairs and has the adjustable objective. I would have long ago (its been for sale for nearly 6 months there!) purchased this scope as I am very familiar with them having owned several in the past. The scope is resting peacefully in the shop with a price tag of $315.00 (three hundred and fifteen dollars!) which is at least double what this scope sold for NEW back in 1973ish! The image in this scope is just about crystal clear! As much as I like these great and useful scopes I just won't pay that much for it. The owner who has consigned this scope is just out of line price wise for a scope made prior to 1974 (according to the scopes serial number). Long live Leupold & Stevens Inc.! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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What I find interesting about the thread is the lower number of issues voiced about leupold scopes in 2010 era, versus the issues being voiced with newer lines introduced since. Example just from myself. My old 2.5- 8x 36 from 02-03 era which performed 100% reliable, till i sold it like a fool to help finance the 2016 vx3i problem child I had.
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The scope is resting peacefully in the shop with a price tag of $315.00 (three hundred and fifteen dollars!) which is at least double what this scope sold for NEW back in 1973ish! NFW that scope was over $630+ back then.....
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This thread has 460,000+ views. Well, yeah, but half of those were google hits on the terms “cock” and “varmintgay.”
Golldammed motion detector lights. A guy can’t even piss off his porch in peace any more.
"Look, I want to help the helpless. It's the clueless I don't give a [bleep] about." - Dennis Miller on obamacare.
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I just now noticed how similar VarmintGuy's posting are to Safarimaam! Pretty crazy..word choice, sentence fluency, style....it's uncanny.
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Judman: If you are interested in a Leupold straight 10 power scope my local pawn/gun shop has an original on consignment for sale! This scope is absolutely MINT PERFECT with NO ring marks or blemishes what so ever anywhere on it! It has the cool CPC crosshairs and has the adjustable objective. I would have long ago (its been for sale for nearly 6 months there!) purchased this scope as I am very familiar with them having owned several in the past. The scope is resting peacefully in the shop with a price tag of $315.00 (three hundred and fifteen dollars!) which is at least double what this scope sold for NEW back in 1973ish! The image in this scope is just about crystal clear! As much as I like these great and useful scopes I just won't pay that much for it. The owner who has consigned this scope is just out of line price wise for a scope made prior to 1974 (according to the scopes serial number). Long live Leupold & Stevens Inc.! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
What the hell is a cpc crosshair? Thanks
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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What the hell is a cpc crosshair? Tapered crosshair......not a bad reticle for some uses.
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