Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Op:Ed Hunters: To protect our social licence, we have to stop killing animals we don’t eat

It's a good bet the author is a Trudeau loving Canuck.




Whenever you see the the root words "common" or "social", it's obvious your dealing with the commie crew.

so the dude who wrote the article was a geography professor huh. he probably does know or suspect how the average urban citizen has become disconnected from the land. they have been schooled in a different direction. it has affected their understanding of natural processes.

at the end of the day it comes down to politics, just like everything else involving humans.

I could see some groups trying legitimize that point and try to drive it home. That's the reason I always stand on sound and proven game management models when stating my case for non hunting folks.
Managing the older age class benifets the whole population in the big picture. Just because I can't afford to participate in that part of it doesn't negate the role that it plays in overall sound game management of the entire species.

Bottom line is there is no middle ground with those that want to control us.

I'll send them all the coyotes they can eat.

And skunks, and diseased hogs. They might think prairie dog is scrumptious as well.

I burned my "social licence" instead of my draft card.

I remember about the time california passed their restriction on lions, some of their game and fish guys were visiting in arizona, and i had an arizona officer living couple doors down. He was relaying their thoughts that the ban would not be good in general.
Cats lose their fear of humanity, and that's where the trouble starts.
I remember asking this guy about the change in arizona, yes we are massively infected by california, that you couldn't shoot a lactating female or a female with cubs. I said how do you know that in heavy brush at a 100yards. His answer to me was , you were born in arizona, you know what to do. the 3 S's if not the right animal, shoot, shovel, and shut up.
We have had an explosion of growth in arizona people wise, and i personal know of a mt lion that was taking naps on a guys porch in a subdivision in prescott. And warning signs on some of the hiking trails to rattle cans when in a cats presence. Only time till a kid gets snatched. I live near and work in sun city, arizona, part of the metro valley. New arrivals are in horror when little fluffy gets snatched by a pack of coyotes or a hawk. All those golf courses etc are really good for the rabbit population, water, cover and the predators love it too.
I live in phoenix, houses all over, and have a pack of coyotes working the feral cat population around me. Friend of mine says he is waiting for the yotes to get rid of the cats, then he will get rid of the yotes.
I like to tell people and it's true I don't LIKE to kill anything. And I generally will not shoot anything i don't intend to eat. But that's just me.
And i tell people animals don't go to an ol animals home. Wait until you are camped at night and listen to the cries of an animal getting eaten alive by a coyote pack or a lion. A bullet is a lot better.
but this guy is a canadian, not to put down all canadians, but as a member of a conservation group his viewpoint comes through.
I would have had my azz kicked as a kid if i had the chance to shoot certain things and didn't do it. Such as rattlers, yotes, cat and so on.
There were reasons for doing them. still valid. And you have to be stupid not to realize what higher predators can do to deer/elk populations if they themselves are not under pressure. we have an expanding wolf population in arizona that are in a lot of the state where the state says they are not, except people have seen them. they are also cross breeding with coyotes. Years to come will be fun.

I can't tell somebody how many kids to have, or if they should be vegan, or how they should vote. I can certainly have an opinion and make suggestions, but nobody is required to listen to me. That's the beauty of the USA.

I will say that I don't shoot much these days that I don't want to eat, except coyotes, feral hogs, and water moccasins / copperheads (we do eat feral sows). I'll also plug a crow if the mood strikes and he's bugging me. I give passes to foxes and bobcats, just because I like them and choose to let them go.

It’s not ok to kill to kill predators......

but, it is ok to kill unborn humans?

F’n Libtards....

Change an entire culture, ... because a geography professor says so.

Typical lack of logic...how do they keep forgetting that furbearer's pelts buy food. Kill to eat, defined - for critical thinkers, at least... A point I rarely get any feedback on after reminding the online Anti freaks.

I don't care if anybody does it but I don't see the point in killing Elephants, Giraffes, Hippos or Rhinos unless it's in defense of life or property.

Elephants, Giraffes, Hippos, and Rhinos are all quite edible.........

They eat every ounce of them in Africa when you kill one.

The natives have a much needed bonus from the meat provided.

My freezer isn't big enough.

I knew that but that's why hunters pay a lot of money to kill them.

Why? hunting gives them VALUE, thereby the locals protect them. Not hunting them assures their extinction. It's a FACT, not to mention the other FACT, every once of protein is consumed.

Hey if you wanna rub your junk on your 270 go for it........

That's not why hunters pay a lot of money to kill them.

we humans do love to consume meat based protein. some people claim we're natural borne vegetarians. some claim we are natural born killers.

the wolves from a contract signed some 20,000 years ago to travel with us knew exactly what they were doing, right?

agreements have been made. we must live up to our side of the bargain, or be banished from the countryside.

animals manifested on this urthen to help humans become established and be in command & control.

The author is warping young minds at U Vic, and once warped, getting them straight is going to be even harder. Shameful.

But I'm running across more data that shows predation from varmints (aka "charismatic megafauna" and/or "large carnivores") is damaging huntable numbers, reducing success, killing agency revenues -- and you can bet your last penny that idiots like our professor think that's great. Predators are like having unregulated poachers given free ammo to kill everything they want. And the anti-niks are so hatred of hunting, they don't understand that there won't even be any fuzzie wuzzies left for them.

These are dangerous times.