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I can't tell a difference in recoil between the two. I guess if I was shooting hot loads with heavies in the 7-08, there may be some difference.
Right now, I shooting factory 120 NBT ammo in the 7-08. I put it together too late to work up loads.
BTW, the new NBT's are pretty hard compared to the one we shot 20 yrs. ago. Those tended to blow up with shallow penetration. The 120 NBT out of the 7-08 punched thru a WT chest, small entrance, 2" exit. Not a lot of damage, buck ran 50 yds and piled up. I guess it was enough damage to prove fatal, as he ended up in the skinning shed, subsequently the cooler.
Dead is dead.
I'm working on loads for the Creed, thinking about VLD's for quicker chest shot kills. I have 130 and 140 VLD Hunting, 135 Classic Hunter to try. The Creed shoots very tight groups with the 123 gr. Scenar over Varget. May go with that combo. Also have 136L and 139 Scenars to try. Scenars seem a bit harder than the Bergers. Both bullets have thin jackets, the Scenar alloy must be a bit harder.
DF Any one have thoughts on the Accubonds for deer(large deer) ?
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I can't tell a difference in recoil between the two. I guess if I was shooting hot loads with heavies in the 7-08, there may be some difference.
Right now, I shooting factory 120 NBT ammo in the 7-08. I put it together too late to work up loads.
BTW, the new NBT's are pretty hard compared to the one we shot 20 yrs. ago. Those tended to blow up with shallow penetration. The 120 NBT out of the 7-08 punched thru a WT chest, small entrance, 2" exit. Not a lot of damage, buck ran 50 yds and piled up. I guess it was enough damage to prove fatal, as he ended up in the skinning shed, subsequently the cooler.
Dead is dead.
I'm working on loads for the Creed, thinking about VLD's for quicker chest shot kills. I have 130 and 140 VLD Hunting, 135 Classic Hunter to try. The Creed shoots very tight groups with the 123 gr. Scenar over Varget. May go with that combo. Also have 136L and 139 Scenars to try. Scenars seem a bit harder than the Bergers. Both bullets have thin jackets, the Scenar alloy must be a bit harder.
DF Any one have thoughts on the Accubonds for deer(large deer) ? I've tried 130 NAB's at the range, not on deer. They should work well. Some say their terminal performance is not too unlike the NPT. And in my 6.5CM they are more accurate than the Partition. DF
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Deer don’t like accubonds, neither do moose or elk for that matter. They are one of my favorite hunting bullets. The ABLR is an excellent performer.
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Bwana 1,
Since 2005 have seen AccuBonds work very well on black bear, blesbok, caribou, eland, elk, feral pigs, grizzly bear, hartebeest, kudu, mule deer, pronghorns, springbok, warthogs, whitetails, wildebeest (both black and blue), zebra, one wolverine, and no doubt some other animals I've forgotten. But apparently they're still not a "proven" bullet.
Would love to see the "large deer" they wouldn't kill.
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Thank you gentlemen, I just received 3 boxes each in 260 & 708....should be set 
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I’m gonna try the 150 LRAB in my 7mm08 and the 142 LRAB in my Swede. We’ll see how they perk with Big Game and R26.... I’d like to try the same. I think that 142 ABLR would be wicked in the Swede. Right now the Swedes bumping 2900 with the 140 ABs. Let us know how it works. I would be very interested in your results. Am thinking along those same lines. Currently my best Swede load is the Scenar 139 over a healthy dose of MRP. It's more finicky than my 6.5 Creed which will shoot about anything. That one really shines with the Scenar 123 and Varget. DF
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As long as the power of the 6.5 is enough for the game at hand, shouldn't the recoil comparison should be between bullets of like BC (rather than weight) at a given velocity? Or should it be compared with ideal bullets in both at max velocity? A ~0.8 BC in the 7-08 is about 150 fps slower than a 0.7 BC in the 6.5 Creed, in like barrel lengths. Recoil difference isn’t much.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't it make more sense to compare bullets of like SD?
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129 and 142g Long range accubonds in the Creed and 47 are nothing short of awesome, easy to tune in my rifles also.
R#26 and fed 215 is awesome with the 142's in a custom Creed, fast and accurate!!!
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Bwana 1, Would love to see the "large deer" they wouldn't kill. TFF! laffin' 
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I remember way back when most people didn't think the 7-08 kicked all that much. Back before men used skin moisturize. And eye-bag cream. I can’t believe it ! ! I’m not the only one. Jerry I omitted a couple thots.... being PC.
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I have 2 7mm-08s and am wanting another. They have been deer slayers for me. One is a 700MR with a McSwirly and 2.5-8x36 Leupold. The other is a GAP NT that is surgical. The cartridge simply works well on deer.
I have shot 6.5 CMs but dont own one yet. I would like one and will probably hunt with it but want it more for plinking at the range. I'm sure they kill deer just fine but I like the 7mm-08 and cant see where the 6.5 CM would unseat it as my top choice between the two. Hopefully both will live long and prosper.
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It will be more, but is it detectable, probably not. shouldn't the recoil comparison should be between bullets of like BC (rather than weight) at a given velocity? I think the recoil comparison should be between the typical bullets that are being used in each. Most people don't use bullets heavier than 140's in the 7-08. My rem 700 mtn lam really likes the federal 150 grain load using speer hot core. At least on the days the rem 700 wants to shoot right
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