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I guess pebble thinks defeat of prop 1 is a green light. Got a mailer today with a lot of bs and twisted “facts” in it.

Clearly they had this ready to go to get it this close after the vote.

I think they’re wrong.

I got one of those today as well.

I agree with you Mike. The anti-everything groups tried their darnndest to make us believe Pebble was the main reason for #1. The prop lost so badly because most of the voters saw through their bs and how it would affect all of Alaska. A large percent of “no” voters killing the initiative are very much against the mine, it’s location, it’s lack of believable safeguards or other reasons related.

Pebble needs do a lot more work before I will be satisfied it is a good thing...
For the record I voted “hell no” on #1

I got the crap as well.
The market isn’t acting like it is a green light for NAK.

So no on pebble? I guess I better take that sticker off my truck.

Pebble is, was, and forever shall be a very bad idea...

Can’t think of any more ardent supporters of conservation than hunters. No on 1. No on Pebble.

That’s my take

I just surprised at how quickly they got that mailer into mailboxes.

And the twisted “facts” in it.

But it isn't going away. It may take 50-100 years until they get all the polititions, judges, etc in line, but it will get done. $50B?? is high stakes!

I cannot imagine getting the go-ahead to build the largest dam in the world on a 2,500' thick peat mattress.

I do think Pebble was a primary driver behind #1. However, the proponents were clueless to the fact that they could have gotten easy support for it if had not been written so broadly. The “antis” really are out of touch with the people of Alaska. Independent thinkers... that’s many Alaskans, aren’t big on being polarized by ‘the dividers’.

After speaking directly with the actual author I believe they were out to stop all development everywhere. Mining was only a side issue...

He was kicked aside quickly, probably because he was so open about his vision.

Buried in granola?

Met a 4?

When has a really bad idea ever permanently gotten in the way of $? We'll be seeing attempts for Pebble the rest of our lives, I think. A segway, here.

The Yukon River Dam is still on the books, as is the Missouri River Diversion (Irrigation) Project from the 50's. For those unfamiliar with the latter, basically it was to use water from the Garrison Reservoir (Lake Sacajawea) to irrigate points east- primarily the Red River Valley. Since the RR drains north into Lake Winnipeg, and eventually Hudson Bay, the Canadians thumbs downed it for reasons of ag runoff, and species introduction into their waters. As I understand it, it is still on the books, just back-shelved by the Army Corp of Engineers, et. al.

All that water did prove handy for the fracking process in ND, I was told. MY dad was crane operator for the construction of the first 4 of those big surge tanks at the Garrison dam. My oldest brother rolled a Uke off the dam face once, and my BIL also worked on the dam. We lived about 15 miles downriver - a 25 mile drive to the dam site. A younger brother, now retired, has done extensive historical research all over that area (required for pipelines, fracking operations, new roads, etc....), as well as places as far away as Guam.

This is off the subject even more, but he told me a funny? story a few weeks ago when I was in CO. He had some research to do on Cheyenne Mt and requested the required documents. Included (but not requested!!) in the packet he received one afternoon was the electrical schematics for Cheyenne Mt. He called up with: "I think someone made a mistake...."

He was told "Don't worry about it"

The next morning when he came into his office, the packet of requested materials was still in his desk. Without the electrical schematics.

Clueless as usual... It's neither the largest dam in the world, nor is there 2,500' thick peat there.The [bleep] you come up... Wow.

Thinking out of the box, one would think, that if there is that much money there abouts, someone could figure out safe ways to do things. But then the profit isn't as much. But isn't that more or less a win win? I think common sense went down the drain a long time ago already.

You read that as literal, literal, gospel truth?!!!! To quote someone:

Good thing we don’t have earthquakes