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This may be old, but on Friday I was chatting with a guy from Accusport who says there a Rumor that Ruger may discontinue the No. 1 as a regular catalog item. He say it was Bill Sr. that kept it going, and the demand barely justifies manufacture. it may be limited to special runs only.

Anyone care to comment? Browning stopped making the high wall/low wall and next Ruger? Tell me it ain't so.

I would not be surprised at this. A annual production of 12,000
to 15,000 is not enough in our high volume gun manufaturing atmosphere.

Yet this kind of "RUMOR" will certainly help sell rifles. If there is any "merit" to this rumor Ruger would use it to clean up excess inventory of rifles before discontinuing the #1.

"panic buying anyone!!!!"

I hope they don't discontinue. The #1 is one of the few production rifles still being made that I like.

Sure...

Stick it to the lefties one more time........

I had heard they were just reducing the number of chamberings offered.

I'm never going to get a No. 1 in 6.5x55 Swede

I just picked up a 204 ruger in a Model 1a for $600. The regional supplier had several calibers on sale due to "discontinuation" of the model variation not the whole line. I think that they are eliminating the hornet,218 Bee, 204 in 1A, 300 weatherby in 1B, 405 Win stainless 1H, but the line will continue. I think that the bigger bores in the tropical variation are more popular than ever. I can't wait to get my 450/400 NE and would love to have a 470 NE model 1H.

Tod, I share your pain. A swede would be outstanding in the Model 1.

" can't wait to get my 450/400 NE and would love to have a 470 NE model 1H."
Not even a rumor of that one yet?

Not a hint. Just went by Fulton's Firearms for a visit. The owner said maybe June. I have my doubts.

What about the .470, that's just something you would like or have you heard a rumor? I remember yrs ago, Boddington saying a .470 would be a good chambering in the 1-H but there were no plans by Ruger then. I always thought that if they did chamber a nitro it would be the .470 but I'll be buying the .450/400 first one I see. My 9.3X74R is ordered now!

S.A.,

I have posted this before: I have held a .470 N.E. Ruger #1-H in my sweaty little palms. I should have bought it. This was about 10 years ago. Only reason I didn't, was that I thought someone was trying to be clever and it was not factory. By the time I researched it to find out it was indeed factory, Someone else bought the gun.

In all honesty tho', the thought of $8 per round of ammo, not to mention custom bullets and $250.00 dies, I guess I'm just as happy that I didn't. I seriously doubt if they made over 50.

Grasshopper

Ah progress. Redding just announced 470 dies and Grafs is listing them at around $65.
Also Jamison brass is available for $2 a pop, which is less than half of what they want for Norma 470.
Bullets- Woodleigh SN are available for under a buck a piece at Midway and for practice you can always use a cast slug intended for the 475 Linebaugh/480 Ruger.

Not cheap by 30-06 standards, but not near as bad as it use to be.

As to the factory status of that No1, I rather doubt it. 470 isn't listed in the No1 history section of the website, though they do list the 404 Jeff of which fewer than 80 were made. Could it have a custom by Hamilton Bowen? He used to do N.E. boomer conversions on No1s and he's fond of replicating factory roll marks on barrels. Just a thought.
SOS

There is no plans for a 470 NE #1. I would buy one if they made them again. As Grasshopper said they apparently made a few in the past. All I have got to say is Grasshopper what were you thinking? GRIN LOL
June is the new guess by my local man about when the 450/400 will be out in the States.

The obvious fact is that I wasn't!



Is that June of '07 or '08?

I'd be more inclined to bet on the '08.

GH, too bad you didn't know it then.
Strange that Ruger doesn't list it in the calibre history, maybe some type of prototype run was made?

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/PS-GaugeCaliberHistory-RI.html

S.A.,

I can think of at least three calibers of number ones that I Know were made that are not in that caliber history chart on their website.

Ol' Bill was not above making special things for his friends. (And I suspect for the RCA (Ruger Collectors Assn) for that matter.)

After I saw that gun, I talked to a noted Ruger collector and he was aware of it. Not only that, he told me they also made an uncataloged run of .450 N.E. Sometime later I saw one for sale in the Gun List. But I have never actually seen one.

When I saw the .470, I, at first, thought it was a rebored .458 Win. because it had the "Warning" on the barrel. Which would indicate production of around the early '80s forward. IIRC, I saw this one in April of '97. I do remember that it was old enough to have the "Red" pad.

I looked closely at the caliber stamp and it said: .470 N.E. in the same style of fonts that Ruger uses. That is what threw me.

In the Ruger catalogs, 1993 still shows Red recoil pads. 1994 shows black pads. That's about as close as I can narrow it down.

BTW, According to Ruger's Serial # History, it would appear that the black pads came about with the change from the #132 prefix to the #133 prefix.

Grasshopper

Makes a guy wonder how many 'oddballs' are out there. I see the did chamber for .35 Whelen. I'd love to find one of those-I didn't know they had it in a #1.
Anybody else out there see any 'different' chamberings?

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ILURRn8fDYJDGCKWPEvkG3Se37mbrlzHxiKF9eq_QAdnOvRknkKpSSvheESMRIhHMRFQ7N0p5FrxDDEUyi9l4UvgqxBYTLX8J0XDrBA/Ruger%20%20%23%20%201%20Serial%20%20Numbers/Ruger%20%20%23%201%20%20Unusual%20%20%26%20%20Low%20Production

SA,

Interesting link. I have two of the odd ones mentioned. One is a 1-V in 6 PPC. The other is a two caliber stamp, `1-B. 7mm Rem Express or .280 Rem.

I would really like to get my hands on a 6.5 Rem Mag. or even a .264 Win.

grasshopper