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castandblast,
Since you apparently don't own a .444, and haven't tried a reduced load with H-4895, you haven't a clue. Those who do have a .444, and have used H-4895, know what I am talking about.

Try 36.0 grains of H-4895 in your future 7mm-08 (when you buy one) under a 120-gr Ballistic Tip, for a really mild 200-yard deer load. It's great for young shooters and women.

What will the 130-gr TSX do elk that a host of 150-gr .270 bullets don't do better?

Ok ... so let me get this right (before I go off and do the math on it) ...

it's NOT ok to use a full house 120g TSX load in a 7mm-08 past 200 yards, but it IS ok to use a BT loaded down to roughly 65% at 200 yards and under?!?!?!

WGM, you also can't read well.
200-yard limit for the 150 to 160-gr for big game,
400-yard limit for the 120-gr TSX at full throttle for DEER.

I recommended the 120-gr BT emulating a .257 Roberts at 2,600 fps as a youth load for younger shooters. It's fun to shoot, and unlike the TSX, cheap. I have an even cheaper fun load with a 110-gr HP that even you smaller guys can shoot 100 rounds of in one practice session. That's what it takes to build skill.

What will the 130-gr TSX do elk that a host of 140-gr and 150-gr .270 bullets don't do better?

Lee24,

Once again you fail to discuss the issue.

Once again you try to change the subject.

Once an old lady busybody approached the great preacher, D.L. Moody and said "Sir I do not like the way you present the gospel."

Moody responded by asking her how she shared the gospel with others. The lady replied" Well, I don't do it myself."

Moody said " Madam, I prefer the way I do it over the way you don't."

I prefer to actually hunt with the guns and loads that I discuss than to be critical of others in areas where I have no experience or expertise.

You have no credibility here, I've only been here a few weeks and I can see you know nothing about the subjects you profess to lecture others about.

Britt

I didn't bring up the .270. I just asked a question that you can't answer.

TRY THIS:

What will the 120-gr TSX do elk that a host of 140-gr 150-gr 7mm-08 bullets don't do better?

It'll kill every darn elk that it is pointed at in an inteligent manner just as well as the 150's etc will do.

Dead is dead pard.

The last bull I took with a 270/130TSX combo came out of the timber @496 yds. I took it on the point of the near shoulder with a 130 TSX and the bullet went on thru the bull and exited the far rear quarter.

Said volunteer bounced!

Not sure what a 150 out of a 270 and or a 210 out of my 340 would of done any better...?

If you don't mind Lee indulge me this and tell me about your elk hunting experiences, what have you shot, where have you hunted, has it been guided and or unguided? And what you used for rifles/rounds/bullets etc.

I'd truly like to hear as you seem to have a lot of thoughts on said subject, so I would like to hear from what experiences you know these things to be true.

Many thx 4 your time

Mark D

It doesn't take long............

You're the ones who can't discuss the issues I raise, and have to divert into the bullrushes or insults. Maybe I am making you think about too many new things. Just take a break, then come back to the core question?

What will the 120-gr TSX do elk that a host of 140-gr 150-gr 7mm-08 bullets don't do better?

Another childish surrender in the above thread, after facing the reality that:

* Barnes says the 120-gr TSX lacks the energy to reliably open beyond 400 yards.

* Hunting experts agree that 200 yards is the safe limit for the 7mm-08 on big game, due to energy with any bullet.

* Inside 200 yards, where the 120-gr TSX has enough theoretical FPE for big game, it is inferior to the heavier bullets in trajectory, momentum, energy, retained weight...anything.

* Lots of 140 to 160-gr bullets are proven to work on big game.

* John Barness's favorite 7mm-08 and 7x57 bullet is the 160-gr at 2,700 fps.

* Craig Boddington's favorite 7mm-08 bullet is 150-gr, and he thinks the .30-06 is minimum for elk.

* Most of the outfitters and guides discourage the use of the 7mm-08 if you have something in the .30-06 class or higher.

Seeing how Ric is incapacitated at the moment, and out of respect for Ric and his board PLEASE everyone ignore this ignoramus of a TROLL!!!!

By your own words, and your standards, you haven't a clue either!

It's apparently lost on you that I'm not a proponent or opponent of the TSX, the 7-08, or reduced loads with 4895. I'm a 100% proponent of sound advice rendered by credible folks with first-hand experience. That's what makes the 24 Hour Campfire unique. Unfortunately for you, those same credible folks have had a snoot-full of your BS and are ready for you to stuff a sock in it or move on......

It's bad enough that you advise people to shoot animals with bullets and cartridges you've never drawn blood with. Advising people to use a handload that you have admittedly never used yourself so that you can appear to be smart is simply stupid and irresponsible.

Good point, George. Good time to go load some ammo.....

Never have I had the misfortune to run across someone with such and inability to be embarrassed their own ignorance.

Lee, your BS doesn't fly here because you are trying to snow a bunch of guys who have actually BTDT. You can't BS the players.

Go sling your schit somewhere else where you might be able to BS your way through. Everyone here sees you for the fraud that you are.

Highly entertaining, gentlemen. Please, carry on........

Wow and I have 2 7mm-08 comeing to my house soon ( ss win 70's)
Gosh what was i Thinking ?????? 120tsx should work good right ????

LEE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING???? Oh never mind you cant realy know can you.