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Reason? other than the first line in your signature.
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There is a reason polygamy is illegal in most places....................
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There is a reason polygamy is illegal in most places....................
Defies common sense and just a plain schitty idea. reason?
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I've made the mistake myself.
Seems like a great idea on paper, but it really sucks in practice.
Same goes for multiple barrels for one action.
Having rifles zeroed and ready to hunt/shoot is where its at man.
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OrangeDiablo: Been there - tried that!
Just put good glass on each one, buy once cry once!
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SWFA has your answer. 2 SS 3-9 hds and a SS 6x, all w/ MQ reticles. Problem solved.
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Good luck with your project.
I went down the B&L Bal-Var rabbit hole about 30 years ago and after awhile I decided that it wasn't the best way for me to go, so I went back to internally adjusted scopes on each rifle in lieu of a couple of non-adjustable scopes swapped between rifles with adjustable mounts.
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SWFA has your answer. 2 SS 3-9 hds and a SS 6x, all w/ MQ reticles. Problem solved.
mike r Pretty good suggestion here.
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I would agree that it sounds like a lot of work to keep swapping the scope. One scope per rifle is a lot simpler.
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the bases are $399.00 each and the rings are $279.00 !
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What are the three rifles?
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I would buy 3 VX-11 or VX111's, sight them in and go hunting!
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This is by no means going to be permanent, but a temporary (year or two) solution until I can afford to glass the other rifles appropriately. Was planning on a quick release like the Burris or Larue mounts, since all rifles have Picatinny rails to keep things as simple as possible. Can't see this being anything but a royal PITA. With so many decent optics out there I would be very surprised if you couldn't setup all three for $1500. What are the guns and your planned use for them?
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What are the three rifles? Majority of the time, it will be between a 223 and a 260 at the range, so a few more shots to re-zero is no issue. The third I threw in on the rare occasion is a 300WM. I understand they are quite different ballistically. I also understand I don't necessarily need a 15 or 22x for a 223, but........
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To reliably swap scopes between rifles, you need a borescope-collimator. The Bushnell 74-3333 has a 160moa grid and 3 adjustable arbors. Redfield and Tasco boresighters, iirc, came with specific caliber arbors. Might be better?
Anyway... also need reliable mount system, preferably same base and rings. Also want an inch-pound torque wrench to assure fastener values.
Having same receiver helps minimize error. I have seen USRAC win 70 be more uniform than Rem 700 of any year. Very little chance of variation if using flat-top AR or reciver with integral picatinny rail. THAT really reduces potential error. Also want scope rings with single fastener and horizontal scope cradling rather than vertical.
The scope collimating grid enalbes verification that the base and rings are aligned with barrel. Using tactical type side-lever QR systems can deliver off-certer mounts. Not what you want for scope swapping. My experience also showed the Leupold QR mount system was not feasible for swapping. More than 1 scope for same rife? You're okay, but beween rifles they were all over tha place.
With scope turret settings dialed to exact mid position, or within 1-2 1/4" moa clicks, ought to see alignment with center of the colliator grid.
Scope(s) being swapped should center on each rifle. Receiver length variance may be a factor showing elevation variation, but windage position should stay constant at this on the bench set-up phase.
Assuming all mount systems position scope about same, and you're keeping a notebook for settings etc. Should be very close to able to use the collimator grid to change turret setting and get your zero back, or within an moa fraction. Your notebook should contain the different grid coordinates for each load or distance you sight-in for.
The collimator grid also enables diagnosis of scope movement problems and assures your settings haven't changed between firing sessions. Very portable and durable piece of gear. I think it's the best shooting accessory I've ever bought.
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Not a new idea. Bausch & Lomb had it figured out and was one of their sales promotions. External adjustment scope with adjustable bases made swapping the scope to different rifles a simple process. Have done this with a Balvar 8 but used Leupold Adjusto mounts instead of B&L mounts. Model 70 and a 99Savage are the rifles. Once zeroed to rifle no adjustment needed after swapping.
I have several of the B&L scopes for use in the B&L or Kuharsky mounts. Those old scopes made in Rochester NY are still my favorites. The system works real well and saved me lots of money.
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Orange Diablo: Been there done that - DON'T TRY IT!
About every ten years (since I turned 18 - so that's 5 1/2 decades now!) I get a case of the ass because of the expense of Rifle scopes - and I try variations of what you are contemplating (one scope switching between multiple Rifles).
I am NOT giving you "flak" I am trying to help save you long bouts of aggravation!
Buy one scope for each Rifle and get it and keep it settled in, sighted in and trustworthy.
Again, been there tried that - MULTIPLE TIMES!
Don't waste your time.
Best of luck to you with whichever "plan" you go with.
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Orange Diablo: Been there done that - DON'T TRY IT!
About every ten years (since I turned 18 - so that's 5 1/2 decades now!) I get a case of the ass because of the expense of Rifle scopes - and I try variations of what you are contemplating (one scope switching between multiple Rifles).
I am NOT giving you "flak" I am trying to help save you long bouts of aggravation!
Buy one scope for each Rifle and get it and keep it settled in, sighted in and trustworthy.
Again, been there tried that - MULTIPLE TIMES!
Don't waste your time.
Best of luck to you with whichever "plan" you go with.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy Good post ^ ^
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...Having rifles zeroed and ready to hunt/shoot is where its at... This sums it up well enough.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
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