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Hey Beaver!!
Do we have a category for stupidest fùcktard on The Campfire who isn't a raging liberal, but just plain stupid?
Or do we have to wrap that into the KOTY award?
Brother beav is on it.
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*** You are ignoring this Loser ***
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*** You are ignoring this user ***
Blahaha 🤣
So that's why you call each other "brothers!". You got your little secret club for "men." How about if we share your little secrets on your bever's thread?
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Um, if people are informed of how it was fast tracked and approved (and we do that) then, yeah. Some people do the risk-reward calculations and come to a different conclusion than me...... ...All the people getting it right now where I'm at WANT it.
Do you know of any medical staff that feel so strongly about the Vax. that they refuse to administer such? Star: Not taking it yourself because of concerns about safety do not equate to a ethical need to deny the vaccine which might possibly work to adults who want to try it. We are Libertarians (some of us) and are pro-choice when it comes to a woman's (or man's) medical decisions. Should be left ultimately to the patient to decide. I'm leery of flu shots and shingles shots but if I was giving people shots and they wanted one, well roll up your sleeve or pull down your pants. It's the pro-choice way. Bad as I need cosmetic surgery I'm opting out but I wouldn't mind prepping you for it if that's your choice. Yeah but HappyCamper is alluding to the vaccine being an almost guaranteed bad thing, beyond any sort of normal risk. If the vaccine had a known 99% risk of adverse side effects, and the patient still wanted it, would it still be administered? Where does a medical practioner draw the line?
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Yeah but HappyCamper is alluding to the vaccine being an almost guaranteed bad thing, beyond any sort of normal risk. If the vaccine had a known 99% risk of adverse side effects, and the patient still wanted it, would it still be administered? Where does a medical practioner draw the line?
Generally, at the profit margin.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Well maybe she likes learning the hard way. Consider her learnt up.. I figure so. Even though she's got fluid on the lungs, on antibiotics, It's her mom that I'm concerned about. Antibiotics for a virus huh? Interesting...🤔 It's one of those things that is standard procedure for pneumonia. Even though certain antibiotics are only effective at killing certain BACTERIAL infections, it must be too much trouble for the medical machine to run a simple culture and sensitivity test. So you continue to tow a line of misinformation to self gratify your discontent with the vaccine...congratulations? It is simple; the vaccine is not mandatory, your friend chose to get it, and coincidentally or otherwise, has come down with pneumonia. FWIW, the vaccine is not a viral dosage, so there is not a parallel to be drawn there. She got sick, in conjunction with, and not because of the shot.
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Star: Not taking it yourself because of concerns about safety do not equate to a ethical need to deny the vaccine which might possibly work to adults who want to try it. We are Libertarians (some of us) and are pro-choice...
Yeah but HappyCamper is alluding to the vaccine being an almost guaranteed bad thing, beyond any sort of normal risk. If the vaccine had a known 99% risk of adverse side effects, and the patient still wanted it, would it still be administered? Where does a medical practioner draw the line? Medical staff who are refusing the Vax but still administer such are either... 1. Cautious, but Not all that concerned about the Vax hence are OK with other people's choices.... Or 2/ Are extremely concerned like Camper but wont make a defiant stand in the interests of patient wellbeing purely out of their own self preservation. What would the CF think of someone who was say anti-abortion , but still worked in an abortion clinic? would they simply be called pro choice or accused of being hypocrites complicit in murder?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Star: Not taking it yourself because of concerns about safety do not equate to a ethical need to deny the vaccine which might possibly work to adults who want to try it. We are Libertarians (some of us) and are pro-choice...
Yeah but HappyCamper is alluding to the vaccine being an almost guaranteed bad thing, beyond any sort of normal risk. If the vaccine had a known 99% risk of adverse side effects, and the patient still wanted it, would it still be administered? Where does a medical practioner draw the line? Medical staff who are refusing the Vax but still admister such are either... 1. Cautious, but Not all that concerned about the Vax hence are OK with other people's choices.... Or 2/ Are extremely concerned like Camper but wont make a defiant stand in the interests of patient wellbeing purely out of their own self preservation. What would the CF think of someone who was say anti-abortion , but still worked in an abortion clinic? would they simply be called pro choice or accused of being hypocrites complicit in murder? The difference here is this involved consenting adults who are making the decision for themselves to take this vaccine, and assuming the risks. I would have no issue at all administering the vaccine if the patient was well informed. To be fair, I don't really care if the vaccine does kill a bunch of people. There's plenty more where they came from, seems unlikely we'll run out in the near future. The universe will hardly take notice. Its up to you to do your own research, make your own decisions and take your chances. As long as the government isn't trying to force people to take it, I'm fine with it.
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Abortion is legal...and someone who personally would not get one, but still works in an abortion clinic coz they believe in others also having choice, is there any issue with that? or are CF folks going to question that workers ethics despite being medically qualified to provide such?... (I was told earlier that if someone is qualified who are they to say NO to a prospective willing patient.) . To be fair, I don't really care if the vaccine does kill a bunch of people. There's plenty more where they came from, seems unlikely we'll run out in the near future. Well then what's diff between Vax killing people or abortion targeting them in the womb?
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..... To be fair, I don't really care if the vaccine does kill a bunch of people. ...
Hang on, hang on. What if you eventually discovered that the vaccine was killing more people than what it was saving, would you continue administering the vaccine but offer it at a discount rate (ie up front cash only payment)? Doctors still have obligation to do the right thing - there's the law courts and expert witness testimony by their peers if they get caught out.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Well maybe she likes learning the hard way. Consider her learnt up.. I figure so. Even though she's got fluid on the lungs, on antibiotics, It's her mom that I'm concerned about. Antibiotics for a virus huh? Interesting...🤔 It seems odd, but at least one antibiotic has been found to help in the treatment of COVID19. I think it's the Z-Pack.
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Happy Camper,
On a scale of 1-10, how severe is your Down Syndrome?
LOL Not a fair question - he can only count to potato. He's also part of the wabigoon "Phone Tree of Stupid." LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My friend got herpes from Happy Camper.
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Abortion is legal...and someone who personally would not get one, but still works in an abortion clinic coz they believe in others also having choice, is there any issue with that? or are CF folks going to question that workers ethics despite being medically qualified to provide such?... (I was told earlier that if someone is qualified who are they to say NO to a prospective willing patient.) . To be fair, I don't really care if the vaccine does kill a bunch of people. There's plenty more where they came from, seems unlikely we'll run out in the near future. Well then what's diff between Vax killing people or abortion targeting them in the womb? The difference is with the vaccine, its being taken by choice by people who have the ability to choose for themselves whether it is worth the risk or not.
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..... To be fair, I don't really care if the vaccine does kill a bunch of people. ...
Hang on, hang on. What if you eventually discovered that the vaccine was killing more people than what it was saving, would you continue administering the vaccine but offer it at a discount rate (ie up front cash only payment)? Doctors still have obligation to do the right thing - there's the law courts and expert witness testimony by their peers if they get caught out. If the vaccine was killing more people than it was saving, you probably wouldn't have a very long line up looking to get it. But, lets say that this was proven to be the case, and yet there were some people who maintained that despite the risk they wanted to take the vaccine. Would i be ok with them having the right to take it? Absolutely.
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The difference is with the vaccine, its being taken by choice by people who have the ability to choose for themselves whether it is worth the risk or not.
Getting the Vax or an abortion are both choices. and as long as a med practioner is qualified to legally deliver such service, what's the problem? What do you think of those that say Vax should be a choice not denied to people, but Abortion should be outlawed.? As usual there are those that think others should only have the choices that they personally approve of... and some will even go out of their way to try and take other people's choices away. But back to my orig point... Why do med practioners that refuse the Vax for themselves coz they don't trust it, not refuse to administer such to patients they supposedly 'care about' ?
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Some clarification:
1. If it was truly the genuine COVID-19 vaccine, your friend could not have gotten the virus from it as it contains NO virus of any description.
2. Two injections of the vaccine are needed for immunity. It will take several weeks for immunity to develop just like with the flu vaccine.
Let's not bring facts into this now
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Some clarification:
1. If it was truly the genuine COVID-19 vaccine, your friend could not have gotten the virus from it as it contains NO virus of any description.
2. Two injections of the vaccine are needed for immunity. It will take several weeks for immunity to develop just like with the flu vaccine.
Let's not bring facts into this now Hear, hear. Not fair trying to confuse the membership with facts.
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~
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I knew a guy who got the clap from a toilet seat.
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There is also the virgin who got pregnant in the swimming pool. Edk
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