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Well, in West Texas you will lose 20-40% of blue quail you down with 71/2 because by the time you get to where the broke wing birds fell they will be 75 yards away uphill or in desert sand you cant run in or 2-3 feet down a badger hole or burrowing owl hole or under several hundred pounds of pack rat nests 2 feet high and 6 ft across built up through 12 branches of a spreading mesquite. With low base 20 ga 6's i will beat any gunner with a 12 and high brass 71/2's re birds in the bag at days end. Wish I had learned to shoot with a sxs. I agree 100%. Bigger shot nails them better. When I rolled my own shotgun ammo I would load some 1 1/8 ounce 5 shot ammo just for quail, and some 1 1/4 ounce loads for the left barrel. 6s did a good job and had a denser pattern. Quail vanish into badger holes and into lava boulder piles and slides out here even when they're dead, I'd swear.
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Well, in West Texas you will lose 20-40% of blue quail you down with 71/2 because by the time you get to where the broke wing birds fell they will be 75 yards away uphill or in desert sand you cant run in or 2-3 feet down a badger hole or burrowing owl hole or under several hundred pounds of pack rat nests 2 feet high and 6 ft across built up through 12 branches of a spreading mesquite.
With low base 20 ga 6's i will beat any gunner with a 12 and high brass 71/2's re birds in the bag at days end. I have always preferred to go up in shot size, eschewing "pattern density" (a concept important only to gunwriters) for broken bones and penetration through to vitals from behind. BINGO!
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Indy, I’ve owned a couple of SKB 500’s that I’ve enjoyed. Now my two sons are enjoying them quite a lot!
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Hahaha, l2s. Great to see you on.
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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They are all I own, 12's, 16's and 20's. Beautiful, Ed. The three boys and I headed over to a ranch outside Fredericksburg 12/23/20 and had more than a lot of fun.
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Blue quail are track stars w wings!
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Precisely Wabi! I need to smell powder burn!
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Dukxdog, That is a gorgeous shotgun. Congrats.
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Been shooting little but sxs for a long time. I've shot guns from virtually everywhere. The last time I was in the buying mode the best sxs gun for the money was, IMHO, an Ugartechea. In fact, Buzz Fawcett ran his shooting school with Ugartecheas and put an astronomical number of shells through their base models. If you can find a used one they can be a bargain as many folks don't recognize their value. Still have a xxv Churchill configured ejector grade and have probably killed more birds with it than any other. Wife has an extractor grade 28. They are often found under the trade name Parker Hale. Do pay attention to the stock drop on other older guns.
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I haven't dedicated myself to them, but do love SxS's. Second week of Dove season I use an SKB 100, IC & Mod. If/when I get the chance to hunt quail or grouse, the SKB is what'd used.
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Awesome thread men. Good to talk shooting again. I don’t deer hunt anymore. I do pig hunt, turkey hunt. Enjoy quail and dove shooting. I got both knees replaced on February 14,’20 and have healed well, w typical stiffness associated w cool and damp weather. I didn’t hunt last year and am ready to go again...I hope!
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Two of my old buddies wanted a more traditional way of shotgunning, so they went blackpowder SXS, and loved it. It just seems like a lot more work to me.
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My dad a had a Stevens 311 in 16 gauge. Until I bought my own side by side, I used it to hunt quail, dove and ducks in Oklahoma. I own a half dozen side by side today, a few Spanish made in Eibar, and a couple of Brownings, an old Ithaca, and a Turkish Dickenson set in .410 and 28 gauge. I still have my dad's old Stevens.
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Only the fanciest SxS come hunting with me. Anyone able to ID this fine piece?
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I’ve got the typical shotguns to hunt with. But, I have a hankering for an older, high comb dbl bbl to carry on some walk about shooting. I’m not retiring my others but just want an older more traditional shooter. Probably a 20g as a weight saving measure. What is your experience w SxS? The only way to go. Cheers NC
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Box says "Improved", sure it's not IC rather than IM?
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The Quail Special is I/C & I/C. I/M is between Mod & Full, not a good quail choke.
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I huntef with a side by side 20 for a few years. I did very well with it on quail. I'm not sure why it just swung well and pointed fast. I'm still interested in a light framed cz 28 but we don't really have quail in East Idaho and I don't think I'll ever move back to Boise.
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