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4" is one hell of a reservoir

Actually I am very exited about these guys too!



If barnes licked the expansion problem, (which BTW is the only problem I personally faced many many times with the TSX) , the TTSX would be one heck of a bullet!

Enough of that... I just spit coffee all over the monitor!

settle down fellas... got coffee drippin' from my nostril.

Hawk1--

The Fail Safe and Nosler Partition Gold were Winchester's idea, not Nosler's. Winchester was making the Fail Safe even before Nosler got partnerd up with them. Remember the ill-fated "Talon," that got dropped because it also came out in a "cop-killer" handgun version? That was the Fail Safe under its original name.

Winchester became convinced that the old Partition could be spiffed up too with the help of one of the Fail-Safe steel caps to the rear lead core. Trouble was, there wasn't anything wrong with the original Partition. (As somebody I know well once said, "You mean they were trying to fill the vast performance gap between the Fail Safe and Partition?"

I tried hard in Africa to make an E-Tip lose a petal or two, but couldn't do it. Nobody has to buy them, but all they did for me was shoot very accurately in two rifles, shoot very flat, open well on light game, and penetrate bone on heavy game very well.

To anyone startled by the price: Probably the reason they are costing a lot is the recent increases in metal prices. Most bullets are going up.

Last I looked, most shooters who pay more for bullets (North Fork, A-Frame, etc.) are convinced "their" bullets are a lot better. But somehow this isn't supposed to apply to Noslers?

JB

I am looking forward to having the Nosle E Tip because the California F&G Commission is meeting this month on lead-free bullets. The ARFs are demanding they ban something because condors *might* die from ingesting lead, and tehat lead might come from hunters' bullets (this is speculated by advocates, but not yet proven by science). We will see what the F&G Commissioners do.

jim

POP.....any word on the B.C. of the 180's ??

J

MD,
Yep, I remember that Black Talon title very well. They had bullets with caliber(308/300Mag) recommendations and the 338 was a 250! Ironically, law enforcement continued to use the "Black Talon" (STS) after they were "banned", at least some friends of mine did for awhile. I did not realize the PT Gold was Win's idea. I liked the way the PT Gold seemed to damage less meat, admittedly my experience was only a few animals. They also shot better in my particular rifle. What a HUGE performance gap!
What will the naysayers say when and if they lose a petal? Maybe they NEVER will? I'm sure the folks a Barnes and Nosler get calls complaining that their bullets don't look like the ones in the pictures! Taken from dead animals of course!
Personally, I don't care as the X's resemble the flat noses I use in handgun bullets when the petals shear, kinda like a Partition without its front core and furled back. They kill and damage tissue well.
I'm a little leery about the movement towards the homogenous/single metal alloy bullets. Yes, they are amazing, but why are so many bullet companies going this route? If its a performance thing, great, if its the EPA coming around the corner, I am very concerned. Like I said, I would HATE to see the PT replaced, and so would many others. Also, these metals always cost more than lead, which is at record levels as well. Perhaps manufacture is easier for these styles of bullets, and cost will go down as more of them are bought? I know these companies must be prepared for our "friends". ALL bullets are going up! I work in the battery industry and look at the lead market every day!
Thanks again JB.
Nate

I'm thinking I'll give the e-tip a shot and see how it performs. I'm considering going to a 300 Win for a lot of stuff and this bullet may be a good match. I wonder how long it is compared to a 180 partition. If I can get an E-tip to shoot accurately at 3100 fps with a BC of .523 it may cover a lot of bases.

Hmm

BB...can I ask where you saw that they were going to have a BC of 523? Seems pretty high, but cool if they really are.

J

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A North Fork with Delrin tips???

The PERFECT BULLET???

I want some!!!

Yup! I hope they work out ok for Mike Brady so he can produce them.

As long as the tree-huggers do not force us to use NON_LEAD. Then our choices will be very very limited.

523 BC . It is listed on my previous post where they compare it and the TSX.

When will we see .308 165-150's, as well as .284 140-150's?

I will pm you as soon as they are out.

POP, You are the resident bullet loony!

Hawk1,

ALL of the bullet companies, to my knowledge, have been working on "non-toxic" bullets for years. This is not just due to California, but the overseas market. Most bullet companies sell a lot in other places than North America, and they have to consider those markets as well.

JB

Think I'll call Mike and see if he needs testers!

There's the group I want.