Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire For the preachy Bible thumpers on here...

Oh but we will, whether anyone likes it or not.

Yes, sir!!!!!!

You have faith that "we will" but that's far from a known truth.

You might just fade away. We know what you believe, but that believing is faith.

It sure looks that way.

It's not me who is scientifically illiterate. Your remark demonstrates the very thing you falsely accuse me of. A Hint: faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. Science gathers and tests evidence. Two opposing principles. Faith allows multiple unsupported beliefs. Science must base its explanations on evidence, testing and review.

Widen your reading.

Once more, there is a Gift, that can be accepted, or not.

It's a personal choice.

Conviction based on evidence is not a choice. The evidence is either sufficient for a conviction or its not. When it's not, yet a belief is held, we call it faith.

Check the Catlick way. Children are born free of original sin. Baptized early on as infants to double the coverage. And I think murder was a cardinal sin. No getting away with that one.

It should probably be more related to "mental competency" rather than just age. Unfortunately there are people who have mental impairment, for any number of reasons and at any stage of their life. If there is a "get into heaven free" for children under a certain age, surely a loving god would also include those without the mental capacity to make proper decisions into heaven as well. The Romans used to keep the disabled (physical or mental) as objects for amusement but Christianity did introduce compassion towards them.

I agree. Jesus thought highly of faith. So did His Apostles and the others who were close to Him. To me, faith is simply confidence that God already did what He said He did, and that God is who He reveals Himself to be in the New Testament, and that He will do everything He’s promised. For me, faith is ultimately a response to God. It’s a belief based on what I consider to be a reality. For me, it’s absolute confidence and absolute trust built on my personal and subjective experience and my personal and subjective evidence.

But my faith...and my salvation...aren’t dependent upon supplying “proof” of the unprovable to those who are unbelievers. It's all by faith, nothing else. And I have no problem with those who see things otherwise. For me, my faith is absolutely and unequivocally reliable and efficacious.

I know Catholics who have moved away from faith - the baptism seems to have worn off. None of them remember the act of having been baptised - were too young at the time to recall I think. But the ones who organised it usually remember.

Cardinal and even mortal sins can be forgiven by repentance. I think you'll find that murder is a mortal sin.

You don't have to be smart to be good and and you don't have to be stupid to be bad.

but you gotta be tough if you gonna be dumb

Not if you vote Democrat.

Science shows us proof events do not occur randomly and are based on intelligent design. Its the crutch so called intelligent people use to justify denying the value of faith.

Muslims have faith, Hindus have faith, Jews, Christian's, etc, have Faith, yet cannot agree amongst themselves on truth.....so much for the reliability or efficacy of Faith.

Take heart. The age at which God imputes guild is twenty. Prior to that they are innocent in His judgment.

For those who want to challenge this I will gladly post lots of Scripture to support it.

Lol...that's because fools listen to other fools ..not God.