Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire For the preachy Bible thumpers on here...

They answered the hell outta those questions during the
Inquisition.

Yes, please list. Does this include innocence for those with mental impairments irrespective of age?

As has been said before, you fab up your own definition of “faith” and then go on to build a thesis on a falsehood. Childish actually.

Your definition of faith is not found in the Bible.

Yet again, you are wrong.

This always cracks me up. The "disbelievers" looking to others to be convinced and the "believers" trying to convince them with someone else's words.

I use the standard definition of faith. A word that is used as a blanket term in common usage, trust, confidence, etc...which allows equivocation.

It is you who defines faith in a way that suits your needs. Faith is not the same as confidence or trust built on experience and evidence.

This distinction has been explained time and time again, to no avail. You just assert your own poorly defined version. Never offering a precise definition.

I'm afraid the tribulation has already started and the rapture idea is a fairly recent invention. If that's the ace your counting on I'm thinking it might be a good idea to check your hole card. As for time, what is time to a creator at the center of the universe? It now looks like the 7 day creation was eons. A 7 year tribulation could be and has been centuries. How much more and how bad is anyone's guess.

You said it more politely than I would've.

Interesting that you aussies are so godless.

Bravo

You have some very interesting and unsupported interpretations of scripture IMO. The rapture is supported by scripture, and I believe the Bible in it's entirety, period. God's wrath is explicitly for the non-believer, not the believer. I know that it hasn’t yet started because Scripture says that we will be with the Lord before the antichrist establishes a covenant with Israel that starts the clock ticking for this time of God’s wrath (Dan. 9:27; 2 Thess. 2:3-8)

I Thessalonians 4 (regarding the rapture of the church)
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.



You're right about God's timing though, as it has nothing to do with ours.

2 Peter 3:8 New International Version
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

Where does Penn State come into all of that?

Until you actually search, you will never see the evidence. Until you see dope heads and drunks become Christian and make a 180 with their life, you'll never understand. These were people that weren't raised to sing the cute songs and memorize scriptures in Sunday school. If this isn't evidence enough I don't know what is.

We need to hit rock bottom, and the 'See The Light."

I don't know that we will ''see the light'' but we are surely headed for rock bottom. I don't quite understand the rush but I understand arithmetic and we are headed for disaster.

I've "searched" and I don't see it. dope heads..hmm, probably not a lot to lose and see a paycheck or a handout, they will say and do almost anything. same with drunks- a moment of clarity? a helping hand? something for free, probably and most likely, or about to die and scared out of their wits. That's the typical story, yeah I've spent a lot of hours in Southern Baptist revival tents and heard all the death bed convert stories to fill a barge. Dope heads and drunks converting don't help your case for a caring "god". And no, that's not near evidence enough. You need to do better than that.

Where are your bible quotes to back that up? You use the Bible to prove the Bible...unbelievable.

No proof, No evidence. Just mumbo jumbo about the "blood of the Lamb" and a "close personal relationship with christ"...what a crock of S hit. what does that even mean?

It means that you are terribly lost and not likely to understand until you open your heart, shut your mouth and set aside your ignorant pride.

If you don’t know what “a close personal relationship” is then you have serious issues.

Dude, I understand that you feel the way that you do; MANY people likely feel the way that you do. And you very likely have good reasons for feeling the way that you do, just as others do who share your sentiments.

Imagine a conversation between Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins...and the Apostle Peter. The New Atheists would start out with their blistering critique of the Bible’s Old Testament and highlight God’s genocidal directives to the Jews to go into a land a kill everybody and everything in it, then they’d go on and on about the dangers of religion and they’d cite all of the atrocities carried out in the name of religion throughout history and especially Christian atrocities.

But...the foundation of the Christian faith is not a cleverly cobbled together group of manuscripts that we call the Bible.

Let’s hear how Apostle Peter might respond...“Fellas, I’m very familiar with the history of my people, and I’ve never questioned it because of how I was raised. But none of that...nothing you’ve said has anything to do with my decision to follow Jesus. Y’all reference the inadequacy of my reasoning, so let me explain my reasoning...I only have one reason. When Jesus was arrested, I ran...and when asked if I knew Him, I lied. And when the Romans crucified Him, He died. And at that time, I was like y’all...I had no faith. I didn’t know what to believe. I had no reason to believe, because I didn’t know what to believe. I’d just spent 3 years of my life following what turned out to be a false prophet, and I had a price on my head.”

“And then He came, and there He was...very much alive. I can’t really argue with anything you’ve said, but I’d like to clarify one thing...my reason for believing isn’t something that I’ve heard or read or had read to me. I believe what I believe because of what I saw...I watched Him die, I know exactly where He was buried, but God raised Him...and I saw Him, and I saw Him more than once. That’s the reason...that’s the only reason...for my faith and my hope.”

And that is the reason for my hope as well.

Just as Jesus did when he answered satan's temptations.....with scripture.

It amazes me how many atheists we have on a sportsman’s Internet forum. Seems to be somewhat of a regional thing. We put on a dove hunt every year that brings in about 30 hunters. We have a BBQ feast at lunchtime where every head bows for a prayer of appreciation. I can’t imagine it being any other way. I pity many of the folks on here, and I hope their hearts change at some point.

Some can see.

Some can see when shown.

Some can never see, especially those whose eyes HE covered in scales.


You make me oh so happy.
Im so glad to "see",
I wont have to deal with you in eternity.