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Been working on a load using IMR- 4831 and 105 gr. A-Max, Think I got it. Rio7

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I'd say so! Good shootin', pard!

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Ed, I'm still try'in, starting to like the 6mm Creed, and 4831.. Rio7

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6creed is the way...

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I’d sell that pos right quick. Clearly has no hope of performing. Let me know what you want…..

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I’ve been shooting the 105 scenars in mine. They shoot moa or better. From what I see here, they will do well on game too. May try them this season. The hornady black hpbt shoots great too.

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If/when the barrel of my 22-250 is tuckered out, 6 creedmoor drill bit will go into the chamber of the new barrel.

Great shooting RIO7, always enjoy your post !!!


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Love mine. Factory off the shelf RPR. Shoots 108s into .3 on the reg, did shot a .095 group couple weeks ago with it.

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My 6mm CM made it's first trip to the range today. I had PacNor rebarrel a Ruger #1 in 6mm CM. Still waiting on the stock set to come in, but bolted on the old wood set, and took her out. Fired 10 rounds factory Hornady and 15 rounds of a mid level hand loads to test her out. Next trip will be load testing.

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I'd say you have found what your looking for, good shooting. Rio have you ever tried Hunter powder?


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TrueGrit, Never have tried Hunter, my reason for working up a load with IMR 4831, was i have a bunch of it, and i'm getting low on H-4350. Rio7

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Back when the world was young and Fieldcrafts were new, I ran into a couple online at a shop in AR. One was an 18” TB .243, the other the standard 6CM. Had dies, etc for the .243, but no can plans, and surely didn’t want an 18 without one, so the 6 it was. No real concept of the advantages at the time, so I just got lucky. Since it’s a hunting rifle and pretty pricey for an old man on a fixed income, I’ve been easy on it so as to not wear it out futzing around. Good hunting loads have been very easy to cobble together, mainly with 95gr LRXs, but also NBTs and 115gr Bergers. I bought a couple of boxes of Hornady for a baseline to compare against my handloads, but my stuff has been notably better, with minimal effort.

Always wanted a 6mm Remington and like the .243 just fine, but unless I stumble on some nifty old rifle, I’ll never buy either because the new one has it all in standard factory form. Glad to see it catching on. Sorry to see the Fieldcrafts go away though. Too bad Howa hasn’t picked it up for their new Carbon Stalkers. Maybe someday, but if they do I hope they get the twist right.


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The 105 gr. Scenar has been my go to bullet in 6mm, but i have had trouble finding them, when i get a supply i will go back to them, but for now the 105 gr. A-Max will have to work. Rio7

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A-Max's almost always work good for me. I also use the for deer sized game.
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xphunter, I hope the A-Max works, i bought a bunch of them. Rio7

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Originally Posted by RIO7
xphunter, I hope the A-Max works, i bought a bunch of them. Rio7

I understood the 105 A-Max was discontinued. Where did you find them?


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rcmuglia, Bought them here, from a fire member, 800 of them. Rio7

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I picked up more than that pre-Covid from a individual locally. I was so happy then, and that purchase is even more pleasing now.
I use it in my XP's: 6 BR, 6XC, 6-284, and in two of my 6 Creed's.


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I am covered up with 6MMs, never seem to have to many bullets. Rio7

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Same here


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Originally Posted by RIO7
rcmuglia, Bought them here, from a fire member, 800 of them. Rio7

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with out getting into a pissin match

what does the 6C do that the 6XC didn't do 15 yrs ago ?

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Nothing....Except timing and the Creed cartridges had full industry support


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My comment is how much 6XC do you see on the shelves at you LGS ? i don't think it's which one is better, no pissin match here. Rio7

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Same sort of situation with the 6.5x47 Lapua and the 6.5 Creedmoor.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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How do those 105 Scenars work on game? Similar to the 155gr .308" I hope.
My 6CM shoots the 103 ELDX and 95gr Sierra Gamechanger pretty well. It’s getting a new stock built currently then I’ll try the 107 Sierra MK.


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Originally Posted by RIO7
My comment is how much 6XC do you see on the shelves at you LGS ? i don't think it's which one is better, no pissin match here. Rio7

No contest on which is easier, in every way. All else being equal, easy is good.


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The 105 gr, Scenar, has worked very well for me, on Whitetail, Pigs, and predators, the 103 gr. eld-x works well also, if your shooting paper or steel the 107 SMK, is a good bullet but it's not a hunting bullet. Rio7

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Originally Posted by xphunter
Nothing....Except timing and the Creed cartridges had full industry support



makes sense.....


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Originally Posted by RIO7
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The 105 gr, Scenar, has worked very well for me, on Whitetail, Pigs, and predators, the 103 gr. eld-x works well also, if your shooting paper or steel the 107 SMK, is a good bullet but it's not a hunting bullet. Rio7


Great, thanks! Have you ever used StaBall 6.5? I have a couple pounds of that and IMR 4831, along with 1lb of RL 17.


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TakeEm, Never used StaBall, tried R-17 thought it was to slow, IMR 4831 is working well for me in the 6mm. Rio7

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StaBall works really well in 6 CM with 108-115 gr bullets, IME.

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Jordan,

Thanks for the info, i think i have a couple of pounds StaBall, and some 110 gr a-tips, I don't know what to do with. I can burn them up shooting steel. Rio7

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Rio,

That’d work pretty well. Hodgdon has load data for that combo.

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My 260 keeps shooting groups in the .3's and I want to rebarrel it to 6x47 or 6 creed. Loony I think!


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Originally Posted by rickt300
My 260 keeps shooting groups in the .3's and I want to rebarrel it to 6x47 or 6 creed. Loony I think!
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Rio,

How's it perform vs. the 243 AI?


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David Walter,

I have 2 243 A.I. both 1 x 8 Twist, my 6CM is a 1 x 8 twist, my .243 A.I. run a 105 gr. Scenar at 3050 fps, my 6CM runs a 105 gr. Scenar at 3025 fps, the 6CM needs 41.8 gr, of powder to get there my .243 A.I. needs 41.5 gr. to get there, all 3 are suppressed. in the field if you didn't pay attention you wouldn't know which was which. YMMV Some one will come along and say i'm full of Chitt, that's to be expected. Rio7

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
StaBall works really well in 6 CM with 108-115 gr bullets, IME.

I have one of the Howa barreled actions and put it into a McMillan. Dang this is great in my opinion. I think it's a 1-7 1/2" twist. I have been shooting 105 HPBT's at 3100 with SB6.5 in Alpha Brass. Its been so easy it was almost boring. Fun rifle to shoot.

I have some of the 110 ATips as well. Still mowing through my 105's though.


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Rio,

Thanks for your reply.

That's why I keep my AI, but am waiting for a deal on a 6 Creed to play with.


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David, that's what i am doing playing with a fun gun. Rio7

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Originally Posted by Rickshaw
I’ve been shooting the 105 scenars in mine. They shoot moa or better. From what I see here, they will do well on game too. May try them this season. The hornady black hpbt shoots great too.
I think you're right.


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My standard deer load for years in a 700 bdl 6mm rem was a 100g Hornady btsp over imr4831. I killed lots of deer and other things with that. Finally changed powders when hogden extremes came out but imr worked well for years.

My 6mm Creedmoor likes 108 eldms over h4350. Very accurate and consistent and took a buck a few years back at about 425 yards. The bullet held up well at that distance. IIRC it expanded to about .5" and weighed about 80 grains with a nice looking mushroom. Found it under the hide on the offside shoulder.

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I just put together a 6mm CM from parts I had laying around. Buddy that shoots PRS gave me his take off barrel with about 1K rounds down it. He said it was still shooting 1/4 MOA groups but that he figured that it may have another 200 rounds or so of good before the barrel went so he replaced it. The load he was shooting is a 109 Berger using R16 powder. I don't have any R16 but have R15 and R17, does anyone know how the 3 compare and which one I should try?
He said it did well with H4350 as well and I have some of that so I may load up some and give that a try.


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pullit, My 6 Creed, likes 4350, but i have a lot more 4831, and it works as well or better, i tried R-16 and R-17, both were ok but 4831 shines. Rio7

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Thanks for the info, I found some R16 but by the time I paid shipping and fees it was going to be around $80/lb as they limited you to 2 lbs. I don't need it that bad.


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pullit, There are a lot of powders that will work, some are better than others, use what you have or can get for now, till you can find what you want. Rio7

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I have plenty 4831but I've been using R16. My FC likes R16 with 105 bergers..


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It’s too bad the 107 Sierra isn’t a hunting bullet. Impact after impact for me today at 800 yards.


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If your shooting steel out to or past 1000 yrds, you can't beat the 107 gr SMK.

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The 107 Sugar is rather disappointing with it's .547 BC,though the 110 is simply stellar at .617. Hint.

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Stick, don't need a pissin contest, 5 rnds 107 at 1200 yrds .243 , the 110gr. has the b&c but does not fly as well for me. I'll stay with what works for me. Rio7


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Nice shooting RIO!


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Physics ain't subjective and I only shoot the 110 Sugars in (4) Seex Kreed's. Hint...............


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Stick, what ever works for you is fine with me. Rio7

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Seems they are pointing the 107's now & that's bumped the BC. Still not 110 territory, but better.

And...Great shooting Rio!

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I reckon my Sugar disdain as a whole,is fhuqking Legendary,but if only in fairness...the .243" 110 is exceptional. Mainly because I simply shoot it all and then some,in dozens of rifles. Hint..............

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Rio,
That is some fine shooting at 1200 yards.

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I reckon my Sugar disdain as a whole,is xxxxxx Legendary

EVERYTHING about you is legendary, so much that we swoon at each of your posts. <LOL>

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I reckon my Sugar disdain as a whole,is xxxxxx Legendary

EVERYTHING about you is legendary, so much that we swoon at each of your posts. <LOL>

I always liked the ones where he pisses himself and later thought he must have just split his beer, and then spends the day wondering why the beer he drinks smells like Cat Piss...Classic Schtick...


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SuperKchunt,

You be sure to talk aloud about projectiles you've never even seen,in chamberings you can't begin to afford...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

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Bless your poor poor (literally) heart,for doing your best.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................


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I'm swooning at yet another one of your "look at my cool stuff" pics.

I shoot round nosed bullets when I can. Stuff dies.

Hint <LOL>

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SuperKchunt,

Your Brokedicktitude,is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!............


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Stick I know you shoot it all but where are the results, asking for a friend. Rio7




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Very cool Rio. Excellent stuff for old 243 grin


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Stick I know you shoot it all but where are the results, asking for a friend. Rio7




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5 rnds .243 107 SMK 1800 yrds wind quartering from the right at 5 to 8 mph,

He shoots the bullschidtt. And a few fish for good measure.
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KenBitchAgain,

Your Whining Clueless Kchuntitude,is simply fhuqking magnificent...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

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Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!............


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Originally Posted by RIO7
Stick I know you shoot it all but where are the results, asking for a friend. Rio7




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5 rnds .243 107 SMK 1800 yrds wind quartering from the right at 5 to 8 mph,

Well done sir!



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Not bad for a 50 yrds, now show us something at a 1000 Yrds, I know you can do it all. Rio7

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Ooooops.





Hint...............


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Stick, What the Hell was that all about?? Where's the target?? and what range?? 2 video's 2 shots, 0 results, try again. Rio7

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NOTHING is fhuqking funnier,than a Drooling Texan TRYING to "talk" rifles and extoll her "math" "abilities". Hint.

Bless your poor poor(literally) heart. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............


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Originally Posted by RIO7
If your shooting steel out to or past 1000 yrds, you can't beat the 107 gr SMK.

Yes, you can. The 110 A-Tip beats it, in spite of personal experience. You cannot cheat Physics...No, you can't!
That aside, hats off to your shooting abilities...Those 5 rounds at 1800 yds are something to admire, Sir.

Edit: 110

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The 110 Beer Can is no slouch and shares a .6xx BC,like the 110 Sugar and 112 'Burner,which crushes the 107 Sugar. Hint.

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Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some. Hint....................


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Stick, pictures of bullets are not results, in Alaska or Texas.

I never said the #s on the 110 were not true, what i said is they don't work for me,i tried the 110 gr. and my rifle didn't like them, so i stay with the 107 SMK. Rio7

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Originally Posted by RIO7
Stick, What the Hell was that all about?? Where's the target?? and what range?? 2 video's 2 shots, 0 results, try again. Rio7


A psychiatrist's nightmare

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Originally Posted by KenMi
A psychiatrist's nightmare

Reading your posts is as close as it gets.


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KenBitchAgain,

I get it,that your high Estrogen Levels,lower your Testosterone,you MAGNIFICENTLY Whining Clueless Kchunt and that your Manic Lying Brokedicktitude fuels your GoogleFu...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

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PeeO,

BC's aren't "subjective" and your Dumbfhuqktidue is "impressive"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

The only things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination. Hint.

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Stick, I am sorry i got involved in this thread, you can have it. Rio7

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Nobody can argue with Rio's results. Results are on the target, regardless of BC. He just knew the wind better having less BC.

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Originally Posted by devnull
Nobody can argue with Rio's results. Results are on the target, regardless of BC. He just knew the wind better having less BC.
Amazing results 👌
I can only dream of shooting that group at 1800 yds, or as Stick would say, I live "vicariously" 🤣

The statement about the 107 being the schitt, not so. And it's open to debate to all members. Threads belong to the forum, not to the OP's.

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