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Ingwe: I agree with everything you say about Howa/Vanguard rifles. However you left one thing out. They are so darn heavy. Not only does the 2 lb. 13 oz. action weigh the same as a Mauser 98 action but the factory injection molded stock is one of the heaviest I have seen. The only time I use my Vanguard rifle is when I get delivered to my shooting hut by electric golf cart in Alabama. When I am hoofing it every where else I hunt my 5 1/2 lb. Winchester Model 70 Lightweight is more approriate. Just for comparison a Remington 700 action weighs 2 lb. 4 oz. I own several light weights nice guns
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And unlike Kimber, they function, and shoot reliably and accurately. How ‘bout we stick to facts?!
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What about a ruger american compact in 308 winchester?
As light as the rest, accurate, and an actual short action.
A Leopold 2.5x ultralight in weaver aluminum rings, you'd be at 6.4 lbs scoped.
That 37" overall length would be a perfect set-up only setting you back about $600 for rifle, scope and rings.
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Mainer, this is a great idea. I actually have a compact American in 7-08 for my daughter. Would work great.
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One of them "heavy" Howies. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Stick, What bottom metal are you running in that Howa.?
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Wayne's World aluminum BDL bottom,like this. Hint. Not a bad way to fly. Hint............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Stick is that a Mini Mauser action in your photo? The Howa Mini-Mauser action weighs 2 lb 1 oz. if you can live with .223 Remington length cartridge. The actual magazine box is 2.8" inches long. At one time Firearms International offered the Mini Mauser in 22/250 but there was not much meat left when the bolt face was opened up to .473.
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The Howie Mini and a Mouser Mini,are VERY different animals,in that the Mouser is a clunky piece of fhuqking schit,as a BEST case scenario. Hint. For conversation and why nothing Mouser can begin to "compete". Hint. I personally prefer the 22PPC AFI to a '250 and same(PPC AFI) is housed MAGNIFICENTLY in the Mini Howie,with .545 BC magfed Smooches. Hint. All S/S would be nice. Hint. Which is why I likely have a "few" Montuckies. Hint................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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What DD mounts are on the minis? A quick google came up Mark V. Would love to lower the scope on my son’s mini in a Boyd’s carbon.
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Reupold Rem 700 REVF DD's. Hint..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Last edited by drano 25; 08/18/22.
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It's ALL about the barrel contour and the 22PPC AFI is indeed Magnumer than fhuqk. Hint. Nearly hurt my Baby 270 Montucky's heart,in OEM guise. Nearly. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Stick: Thanks for weighing the Howa Mini action.
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That's a Montucky 84M wearing a .473" snout,which became a Baby 6BR of Legend. Hint.
You are doing "GREAT!" and really "know" your stuff. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I saw one a few weeks ago if we're talking the same rifle. It was the Howa superlite. They make in 308 or 6.5 creedmore. From the website 4.7 lbs. After handling it I believe it. The stock was slim and a tacky texture. I'm not a huge fan of the kryptic camo etc but I'll say the rifle felt amazing in my hands. My good friend was also pretty impressed. Price was 1100.
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Nawwwwwwwww...you were referencing this. Hint. I was referencing these. Them differences are stark and your numbers are crossed. Hint. Just sayin'...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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take a look at the (now discontinued) SAvage LWH series.
the boy and I use these as primary elk rifles in .308. 1.25" 5 shot groups from a rifle that weighs 7# 0oz scoped and ready to hunt.
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