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The J4 was a replacement for the 330 and 440 scopes from what I've read.

The J2.5 replaces the 29S.

I like the J2.5s in the Stiths. I have a few J4s but haven't ever mounted any of them but assume they are decent scopes like the 2.5s.

That's what I've read as well. And the J2.5s is a helluva an upgrade from a 29S.

The early Weavers were not gas charged so the eye piece can be removed. Anyone know when that changed?

Best guess would be with the 60C series or maybe the B series when they came out with the centered reticle system.

first 4X nitrogen-filled Weaver was the K4-60B, the K4-60 was not.

Enjoyed this topic. Nice to learn some history.

When I was a 9th grader, I purchased a 99F.... a featherweight....in 300 Savage. New in the box.... Got it thru a discount catalogue business. In the spring of 1960.
Took a deer or two with it. learned that hunting in the NE Minnesota brush might be a little easier with a scope on it.

Put a Weaver K4, post and crosshair, on it using the Pachmayr Lo-Swing tip off mount. About 1964, The rig worked really well in brush and dim light. Have never regretted that choice of reticule. The swing off choice worked well on close in moving critters.

Later i started reloading for the 300 and worked up a consistent semi-hot load using IMR4320 and 150 gr Hornady bullets.

After about 30 years the rifle's groups started to spread and we traced the problem to the mount. So i switched to Weaver mounts. Back in Business. Off a bench the rifle often would shoot 1 MOA < --> 1.5 MOA when i did my part.

Originally the recoil of the light rifle bothered me. But i grew and i did more shooting with the 99 and other rifles and learned to tolerate the recoil. Took my share of whitetails with it.

The 99 is sorta retired now. So am I. It still looks pretty good. Works better.

thanks for the walk down Memory Lane.

Hopefully this is useful, iron sights inc. ( and probably others ) can seal the scopes that weren't sealed from the factory. I have a several old they rebuilt and sealed. I call it sealed, maybe pressurize, gas filled, etc. are better terms. Anyone reading this thread should know what I'm referring to.

I sent my 1912 Malcolm to them and when I got it back the receipt had "Sealed" on it.

They do excellent work. I'm sure other places do good work too, but I've had good luck with them.

one of Lightfoots posts says the K6 was introduced in1950/51. The K6 on my EG has the earlier adjustments without covers. I think they are the earliest version. I'm in the hospital with the flu so can't go check for the other markings. I'm not that sick but at 77 with asthma and diabetes can't take a chance

Sounds like a sound move, David. Better to error on the safe side. Get well quick; hope you can make it home in time for Christmas.

Thanks Keith. They might let me out today but wife may not be able to get through. But weather is improving so will get home before Christmas.
Anyone have any thoughts on the K6 with the early adjustments?

Keith, did that front mount come with two aluminum inserts that go inside the tube and form around the objective lens?

Mad_dog,
I've never had it apart, but there are two slit halves per this schematic (Note that the schematic shows the first version K4's external friction adjustment) and in the pic I attached, you can see the top of the split halves (they are blued).

David, according to Stroebel's book, the K6 was introduced in 1948. If that's true, that would explain the early adjustments on your K6.

Thanks Jaaack, the serial number places the rifle as being 1947 production. It has a trigger shoe and that scope. It looks like it never been fired. Someone may have set it up as some sort of target rifle and never used it. It's a 250-3000.

This turned out to be a good thread.

Lots of period info that hasn't heretofore been beaten to death.

Thanks Keith, that's exactly what I was looking for.

Hello Mad dog

I was talking with lightfootmount about an S1 sight for a savage 1899. he doesn't have one but suggested you. As a new member I'm not able to PM, therefore I'm sending you this note and my email below

fred.delabbiosfi-consulting.com

thanks
fred