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I have 3 1899/99 Savages, that had the tang crack when I bought them. All have had many rounds shot thru them since I bought'um. My 99D, that I bought in '66 had the worse. Since, all 3 of my daughter, 6 of my grand daughters, and both of my wives learned to shoot with that gun (.300). It has not shot hundreds of rounds, but thousands of rounds. None of my rifles cracks have gotten any worse! There fore, I can not believe that these cracks are caused by recoil. MHO, that as thin as the wood is at this point, those cracks had to be caused by a side wise force. I have a 99E, that has a chip out, directly behind the top tang. That was caused by recoil! However, I am very open minded, and would welcome any proof that I am wrong! By proof, I mean showing me that you can crack the side of the wood, at the upper tang by recoil!
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Sorry Roy, I know I said that I wasn't going to get involved in this, but I just had to state my opinion. OOPs gotta bear to take care of
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Sorry Roy, I know I said that I wasn't going to get involved in this, but I just had to state my opinion. OOPs gotta bear to take care of hey ALL opinions are appreciated on this forum. thkes many brains on this forum to make up the mind of one 
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I have 3 1899/99 Savages, that had the tang crack when I bought them. All have had many rounds shot thru them since I bought'um. My 99D, that I bought in '66 had the worse. Since, all 3 of my daughter, 6 of my grand daughters, and both of my wives learned to shoot with that gun (.300). It has not shot hundreds of rounds, but thousands of rounds. None of my rifles cracks have gotten any worse! There fore, I can not believe that these cracks are caused by recoil. MHO, that as thin as the wood is at this point, those cracks had to be caused by a side wise force. I have a 99E, that has a chip out, directly behind the top tang. That was caused by recoil! However, I am very open minded, and would welcome any proof that I am wrong! By proof, I mean showing me that you can crack the side of the wood, at the upper tang by recoil! No one is saying that All 99 cracks are caused by recoil, the main cause from what I see is the fact that there isn't much wood in the tang area. However, recoil, sideways movement, improper inletting at the factory, direction of wood grain, etc are all Contributing factors. But if you say your 99E has a chip in the tang caused by recoil, why wouldn't recoil cause a crack? The fact that the cracks in your 99's haven't spread, could be explained by several possible factors, the crack spread further into the stock where there is much more wood, or the grain direction changed, or over time the wood in the tang dried and shrunk away from the metal, etc etc. I personally have seen tang cracks spread so far down through both sides of the pistol grip that I wouldn't even want to shoot them.
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Myself, I think wood contact with all points on the receiver is critical for preventing recoil caused cracks. I also think proper removal of the butt stock is critical for preventing cracks. And I also think not ever dropping the rifle is critical for not causing cracks.
Who knows what the causes are for all Savage cracks, but if I were a betting man I'd say 98% percent come from bad stock fitting, bad stock removing, and from dropping the rifle. Oh yeah, wood too is a non-consistent medium subject to weaknesses and failures all in itself.
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Some 99 stocks crack due to the wood checking as it ages. My 99EG had the Savage crack, so I fixed it and glass bedded the four places the stock and action meet. The buttplate on my gun (a pre-WWII piece) is about 1/16" larger than the wood now that the gun is 77 years old and has shrunk. A friend's 99F made around 1970 needed major stock repair. The "fingers" which fit inside the action on the sides were so flimsy that they broke off. I had to make new ones and epoxy them on.
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You just brought up one more critical factor. Wood shrinkage due to age. Maybe some older 99s shouldn't be shot with their original stocks?!
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Been putting "shooter" stocks on M99s for years.  
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Been putting "shooter" stocks on M99s for years. An old rifle with a pristine stock is like an old man with no good stories to tell.
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Been putting "shooter" stocks on M99s for years. An old rifle with a pristine stock is like an old man with no good stories to tell. I wondered who had dug this back up , Always a good discussion for us old guys and newbys ..Norm
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Nine years later and we probably still don't have an answer we can agree on.
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Nine years later and we probably still don't have an answer we can agree on. That's because there are multiple answers. - horizontal pressure about the rec'r/stock - horse rollover - over tightened stock bolt - other mishap...
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- Old ladies cracking walnuts with the butt plates on cement sidewalks
- use as canoe paddles
- levering Model T's out of the mud
- clubbing Mexicans on the head as they scramble over the walls of the Alamo (well, maybe not that).
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Banging the butt on a tree trunk to get squirrels out of their nest.
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Pounding staples in fence posts to hold barbed wire.
Shoeing horses
Stirring a cold fire.
Using as a cane after horse steps on foot.
Tying to deer horns to use as a handle to drag deer.
Etc.,etc.
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You guys forgot just sitting on a shelf in the vault !! 
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Maybe a squirrel got into the vault and used it to bang on the walls (or crack walnuts)?
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It find it interesting that none of my old Marlins 1894s or 1893s and Winchester 1894s have cracks in the tang area. Not exactly the same but the stock to receiver fitment is somewhat similar.
I guess none of my 99s have cracks either. So there is that.
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You guys forgot just sitting on a shelf in the vault !! Didn't think of that one. That being said, it happened to me...
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It find it interesting that none of my old Marlins 1894s or 1893s and Winchester 1894s have cracks in the tang area. Not exactly the same but the stock to receiver fitment is somewhat similar.
I guess none of my 99s have cracks either. So there is that. Indeed the stock heads of those guns aren't dissimilar from the Savage, note too that neither of them utilize a draw bolt.... Another great old timey rifle that suffered from cracked wrists was the Marlin Ballard single shot, and gasp, draw bolt there also. Common denominator between the Savage and Ballard: tapered parts being forced into wood via screw pressure.
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