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To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts". A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 ( https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php) Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa. I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it. lol Millions of doses of ivermectin were given in South America, Mexico, India, Japan and were very successful to treat covid Millions and millions of lives were saved in Africa by Ivermectin the past 4 decades and against parasitic and viral diseases Why did US pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin and hydroxy prescriptions during covid? I wonder how many innocent Americans died because of these fools? Funny the same pharmacists filled prescriptions for the deadly Vioxx drug with out hesitation for years without a concern. How many of the tens of millions of people given ivermectin, a year die from ivermectin?
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Yep, that's blood on the hands of all those pharmacists.
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To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts". A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 ( https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php) Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa. I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it. Nice story..... normie
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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self. This is the correct response: Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change. well said. The rest of you just got played. well, you were one of cowardly fools who very enthusiastically swallowed Biden's propaganda and who pushed the vax that never worked and did not stop the spread of covid and killed thousands of Americans and more will die including my healthy mother Im never going to forget what scum bags like you did during the fake pandemic. You showed your true colors as a weak minded gullible moron
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I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit. This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care. It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients. The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens. The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens. The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen. Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients". Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"? Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
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You work in hospital administration now? I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit. This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care. It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients. The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens. The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens. The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen. Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients". Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"? Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
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To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts". A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 ( https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php) Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa. I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it. lol Millions of doses of ivermectin were given in South America, Mexico, India, Japan and were very successful to treat covid Millions and millions of lives were saved in Africa by Ivermectin the past 4 decades and against parasitic and viral diseases Why did US pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin and hydroxy prescriptions during covid? I wonder how many innocent Americans died because of these fools? Funny the same pharmacists filled prescriptions for the deadly Vioxx drug with out hesitation for years without a concern. How many of the tens of millions of people given ivermectin, a year die from ivermectin? And don't forget the millions of Indians saved when the WHO quietly ceased the Indian outbreak within weeks using their Ivermectin "Medicine Kit". And then immediately covered up what they had done and how they stopped one of the largest Covid outbreaks during the height of the pandemic. https://www.thedesertreview.com/opi...a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.htmlAnyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars. All anyone had to do was spend 20 minutes on PubMed.com to understand why Moderna never achieved a successful Phase I clinical trial with the drug. Little wonder why Moderna was NEVER successful in bringing their technology to market until they were given complete and total immunity for what they were about to do to unsuspecting people. Robert Malone knew the dangers and was immediately silenced, ostracized, and marginalized as a radical anti-vaxer. SARS-CoV-2 - The day Science died.
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I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included:
1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine.
2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient.
3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus.
4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable.
5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development.
6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic.
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I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong. I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread. Yep, so fuqk him. Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth. I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word. And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself. Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better Maybe you should read my post again. Carefully. edit: now that I have time...I have long recognized the intractability of the left. I am not talking about persuading morons like losttrail, I am talking about folks who are on the correct side of things generally but occasionally make an error in judgement. I doubt you "understand the current landscape in america" any better than I do because I recognized the intractability of the left and read the writing on the wall long before the turn of the century, and possibly while you were learning to write your name.
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You work in hospital administration now? That 260 coward can't even vote in an election, much less run a hospital. I feel like I could be a poster child for this Covid19 fraud. I have an auto immune disease, and was put on an AI drug to suppress my hyper AI reactions, this drug being hydroxychloraquine which just so happens to be the drug Africans have been taking for decades to fight malaria. I refused the jab in spite of my rheumatologist's rec to get it. In short, I contacted Covid, continued the hydroxy and added a tube of horse past Ivermectin for a week. Result was nothing more than an insignificant cold. In the meantime, my Dr. got it twice in spite of jabs and boosters. He hasn't mentioned any "vaccination" to me in over a year. The covtards like antelope sniper are always amusing.
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so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ? He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread. Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians. Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted. Spot on You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads. Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem. One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
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I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included:
1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine.
2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient.
3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus.
4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable.
5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development.
6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic. Good post, and thanks for having the balls to stand up against the "powers that be". Screw those criminals.
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Thank you. I have three close friends who are doctors, including my sister and another 1/2 dozen nurse friends that treated Covid patients. Everyone stated the same I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included:
1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine.
2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient.
3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus.
4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable.
5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development.
6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic.
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I suggest reading Lies My Government Told Me by Dr. Robert Malone (with many other contributors). None of it will be news to many on here, but it does document the pandemic and put it all into perspective. I can understand how people were duped at the outset; heck, even President Trump was fooled by the deliberate lies he was told. What I can't understand is anyone who continues to embrace the lie at this point.
I expect that Long Covid may be the next thing they use to try to scare us into compliance; should happen just in time for the 2024 elections to be corrupted.
The biggest problem our country has is not systemic racism, it's systemic stupidity.
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Hey fool. Pfizer admitted that the shots never worked and they had really bad side affects. These mrna shots and boosters WERE NEVER TESTED What planet do you live on? so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ? He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread. Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians. Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted. Spot on You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads. Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem. One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
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so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ? He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread. Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians. Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted. Spot on You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads. Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem. One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped? Did your pea brain ever say to you, " why take an unproven vaccine for a sickness that kills .002% of the people who are infected'?
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self. This is the correct response: Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change. well said. The rest of you just got played. Im never going forget what you did and all of the lies you pushed. You want everyone to forget you helped destroy millions of Americans lives and pushed dangerous government propaganda
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I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong. I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread. Yep, so fuqk him. Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth. I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word. And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself. Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better mRNA vaccine is not approved for use on animals in the United States. That crap was rolled out for humans with out the normal years of trial before approval. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT MY FRIEND!
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You work in hospital administration now? I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit. This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care. It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients. The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens. The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens. The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen. Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients". Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"? Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most. No, I have worked for myself since I sold my first company in 2003. However, I know several executives in the both the healthcare and insurance industries and we talk shop when we get together As a group, the people on the healthcare side were surprised when they were specifically allow to get higher levels of insurance reimbursement just by giving COVID as a possible contributing factor without the patient actually having to test positive for COVID. The guys on the insurance side felt like they were getting screwed, but there was nothing that they could do about the Federal programs that they were administering. Most private insurance carriers required a positive COVID diagnosis to get a higher level of reimbursement.
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so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ? He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread. Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians. Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted. Spot on You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads. Guess on what exactly? Im agreeing with the "covid is 99%+ survival rate. Incorrect treatment killed many people
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