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Not all Michiganders feel the way LL does.

Most of us love sports

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Congratulations to a bunch of stiffs......Doug Moe

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Originally Posted by cooperfan
Not all Michiganders feel the way LL does.

Most of us love sports


And capitalism, I presume?



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11 people shot downtown after Denver Nuggets win NBA Finals

https://kdvr.com/news/local/nba-finals-2023-11-people-shot-downtown-after-denver-nuggets-win/

Who could have seen this coming? LoL

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Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
That's funny! Let's just cheat and foul like a mother fugger is supposed to be good coaching? Coach Spo is the most over rated coach in coaching history! Congrats to the Nuggets!


Now wait just a hot-szchittin' minute; an 8-seed makes it to the NBA finals (second time in history) and their coach is overrated?
Chile please.

Sooner or later, superior talent is gonna come out on top and they finally ran into the buzzsaw.


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Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
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It all ends tonight. Kudos to Miami making it as far as they did as an 8 seed. Their series against Boston was outstanding.




Game 5: Denver came back and was just a bit too strong in the second half.

It became glaringly obvious in this series that the Heat need a true big man.

Another thing that was glaringly obvious throughout the playoffs was that the Heat were never outcoached.

That's funny! Let's just cheat and foul like a mother fugger is supposed to be good coaching? Coach Spo is the most over rated coach in coaching history! Congrats to the Nuggets!

How many fouls per game did the Heat average this past regular season. How many did they average per game in the championship? Which team "cheated" and fouled the most during the regular season?

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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Tell me how I’m wrong.

It’s not about great athletics or players hellbent on winning a championship. It’s salary caps to expand leagues into soft markets and all about ratings and a 24/7 news cycle/controversy on ESPN and is basically another form of reality TV.

TV pro sports are about as real as the nightly news or professional wrestling. Radically change the rules or definitions until you get a desired outcome that’s expected to increase TV revenue. It’s orchestrated for ratings.

That’s fine but it’s an orchestrated reality TV show with rule changes based strictly on ratings draws.

Boomer’s…

Tell you how you're wrong? Gladly.

It is absolutely about superior athletes and players hell-bent on winning a championship. Jokic is a two-time MVP and should have been named MVP for the third straight year this year. That’s the definition of a great athlete. He basically put the team on his back and carried them to a championship, along with Jamal Murray who had a bad knee injury and had to sit out and re-hab for a year. Add in Murray’s legendary training regimen as a kid, that’s the definition of dedication and being hell-bent. Strike one.

Your observations on the changes to the games are nothing more than a description of capitalism at work. Pro sports are enormously popular and they generate a ton of revenue and profits. Do you think the owners and their business managers should just ignore that? What you interpret as pandering to the almighty dollar is just good business and giving the consumers what they’re asking for. No different than automobile manufacturers giving their consumers what they’re asking for. To do otherwise is just bad business and a recipe for bankruptcy. To assume that the purveyors of these enormously popular and profitable products are going to ignore their consumer’s preferences in deference to some loyalty to “the sport” is incredibly naïve and quaint. Do the automakers crank out the same vehicles that were popular "back in the day" because they're loyal motorheads? Strike two.

And your interpretation of the salary cap is ass-backwards. It was put in place for the same reason no one knows who Nikola Jokic is—small media markets. If Jokic was in New York or LA he’d be a household name. Small media markets can’t compete with big markets in generating revenue and paying salaries. Without a salary cap franchises in Denver and San Antonio couldn’t compete with New York and LA, so the salary cap creates parity and a level playing field. Nobody wants to see teams from the big media markets dominate because they can afford to pay more for the best players. Strike three.

And last, your comment about boomers is hilarious. I don’t watch pro sports much, but two of my sons in their 30’s are always talking them up and got me interested. And the rule changes in baseball and football aren’t the result of boomers losing interest in the old-school sports we grew up with, they’re the result of younger fans being bored with the games and not watching in droves. Adapt or go out of business. Apparently you favor the latter.



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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
That's funny! Let's just cheat and foul like a mother fugger is supposed to be good coaching? Coach Spo is the most over rated coach in coaching history! Congrats to the Nuggets!

How many fouls per game did the Heat average this past regular season. How many did they average per game in the championship? Which team "cheated" and fouled the most during the regular season?



Paul, in all seriousness, here are the answers to your questions, in black and white. These data points came from sports.stats.com, an online library of sports statistics:

1) Average number of fouls per game by the Miami Heat during the regular season: 15.3

2) Average number of fouls per game by Miami Heat in the NBA Finals against the
World Champion Denver Nuggets: 152

3) Average number of fouls per possession by Miami Heat in the NBA Finals against
NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Nikola Jokic: 14

4) Percentage of fouls actually called against Miami Heat in NBA Finals by the
Suck Ass Referees: 7.2%

So there you have it. Doesn't get much more obvious than this.



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Nuggets are the first NBA I've watched or enjoyed in years. Loved sweeping the Lakers.

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Originally Posted by Alamosa
Loved sweeping the Lakers.

That was better than the finals. Almost.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
That's funny! Let's just cheat and foul like a mother fugger is supposed to be good coaching? Coach Spo is the most over rated coach in coaching history! Congrats to the Nuggets!

How many fouls per game did the Heat average this past regular season. How many did they average per game in the championship? Which team "cheated" and fouled the most during the regular season?



Paul, in all seriousness, here are the answers to your questions, in black and white. These data points came from sports.stats.com, an online library of sports statistics:

1) Average number of fouls per game by the Miami Heat during the regular season: 15.3

2) Average number of fouls per game by Miami Heat in the NBA Finals against the
World Champion Denver Nuggets: 152

3) Average number of fouls per possession by Miami Heat in the NBA Finals against
NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Nikola Jokic: 14

4) Percentage of fouls actually called against Miami Heat in NBA Finals by the
Suck Ass Referees: 7.2%

So there you have it. Doesn't get much more obvious than this.




Simple fact. If someone is in the paint with the ball heading for an easy layup, you foul them. Period.


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That's true. My reply to Captain Paul was not serious.



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Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
That's funny! Let's just cheat and foul like a mother fugger is supposed to be good coaching? Coach Spo is the most over rated coach in coaching history! Congrats to the Nuggets!



Simple fact is that the Nuggets committed more fouls (cheating) than the Heat during the regular season. During the finals, the Heat averaged one foul per game more than they did during the regular season. Hardly getting their thug on.

As to Coach Spoelstra, his record is clearly better than Malone's.


.589 record vs. .546


Made playoffs in 12 of 15 seasons vs 5 of 10 seasons


Made Finals in 6 of 15 seasons vs 1 of 10


Won championship in 2 of 15 seasons vs 1 of 10


Finished 1st in division 9 of 15 years vs 3 of 10 seasons

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
As to Coach Spoelstra, his record is clearly better than Malone's.

.589 record vs. .546

Made playoffs in 12 of 15 seasons vs 5 of 10 seasons

Made Finals in 6 of 15 seasons vs 1 of 10

Won championship in 2 of 15 seasons vs 1 of 10

Finished 1st in division 9 of 15 years vs 3 of 10 seasons

I've heard he's an avid cyclist and looks smashing in Spandex.

Coincidence?



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