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Bathe at church! Tried it once. Haven't allowed Open Baptism's since
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[quote=antlers]Nowhere in the New Testament are Jesus’ followers commanded to give one tenth of their annual produce or earnings. Christians should take the whole Bible into consideration, not just the New Testament. Jesus said so Himself. We are certainly under the law So, there is no value in reading or paying any attention to the Old Testament? An explanation of why or why not would be in order… Yes, for inspiration and motivation, but not for application. Jesus’ followers are not under the Law of Moses. Period. We are certainly not under the mosaic law... if you think you are, like I said, you better start sacrificing some animals... and going to church on Saturday.... FWIW, Jesus repeated and told us to follow 9 of the 10 commandments.. He omitted keeping the sabbath... thus another reason we do not worship on Saturdays and we worship on Sunday (the day Jesus was raised from the dead...) So do you worship on Saturday or Sunday? because if it is Sunday, you do not keep the law
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We did for a long time, but don’t any more since they allow gay pastors in the Methodist church. Do you My girl brought home a 17 page Contract to be a Member of a local Christian Church she wished to begin attending. Yes there was a section on "Compulsory Tithing" reading the boiler plate reminded me of IRS' section on compelled compliance. There is no more personal relationship than the one between a man and his God. Who invited the Lawyers?
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Every one has 100% right to their individual opinion, that said, mocking God is very disrespectful to me. God is not to be mocked, read the Bible and you will find the scripture. The man asked a simple question, embarrassing to see what is to me a very special event turned into whatever you want to call some of the responses. Everyone certainly has the right to say and do what they want to do, I’ve lost my cool on this site and showed my butt. I’m so thankful I didn’t reject Religion, many times and many years I did what I wanted to do regardless of other people, but openly chastising those who believe and walk the walk never that I can remember. If I can tell you about my Jesus, i would really like to tell you what I have personally experienced. Private message me and I’ll give you my phone number to call, this open forum is not the place for my story. Sincerely John - a believer in God my Father through his son Jesus Christ
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One man's mocking is another man's........
Show a little tolerance brother. Its all perspective.
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Every one has 100% right to their individual opinion, that said, mocking God is very disrespectful to me. God is not to be mocked, read the Bible and you will find the scripture. The man asked a simple question, embarrassing to see what is to me a very special event turned into whatever you want to call some of the responses. Everyone certainly has the right to say and do what they want to do, I’ve lost my cool on this site and showed my butt. I’m so thankful I didn’t reject Religion, many times and many years I did what I wanted to do regardless of other people, but openly chastising those who believe and walk the walk never that I can remember. If I can tell you about my Jesus, i would really like to tell you what I have personally experienced. Private message me and I’ll give you my phone number to call, this open forum is not the place for my story. Sincerely John - a believer in God my Father through his son Jesus Christ A public forum is the perfect place to talk about your Jesus.
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I'm sorry, but Catholicism is all show. They practice and do so much shìt that's found literally nowhere in the Bible. The only intermediary to God is Jesus, not a pope, priest, etc.. Where did hail marys, praying to saints and all that come from? Especially when the Bible says to not pray to the dead.
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Of course, nothing is settled. There are almost as many opinions as there are religions, each one finding fault with the other…
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Hasn't been a good religion bashing thread in at least three weeks. LOL, to quote Jim Conrad on the LDS, "They'll tolerate a certain amount of rascalry if that tithe check don't bounce!"
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yeah but becoming less and less motivated to do so.
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I'm sorry, but Catholicism is all show. They practice and do so much shìt that's found literally nowhere in the Bible. The only intermediary to God is Jesus, not a pope, priest, etc.. Where did hail marys, praying to saints and all that come from? Especially when the Bible says to not pray to the dead. Yet it is written, "thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
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Yes. I've tithed since 1998
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We did for a long time, but don’t any more since they allow gay pastors in the Methodist church. Do you That’s why our church voted to disaffiliate
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One man's mocking is another man's........
Show a little tolerance brother. Its all perspective. Yup, it's called Grace. After all, It is God's Grace and His mercy that sees us in the Spirit, not the flesh. We are called specifically to NOT see each other in the flesh, but in the Spirit as God sees us. Ed
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Paul warns anyone trying to live under both covenants that they then have to keep both which they cannot do... Paul gets so frustrated with them that he tells the ones teaching that they still have to be circumsised that they should go ahead and cut the whole thing off... You would do well to leave Paul out of your study of Christianity. He injected himself into the church under very dubious circumstances. Why not use John the Baptist and Jesus' teachings?
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The more I give, the more I make......funny how that works.
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You fellas ain’t given your money to Jesus Christ FYI
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When Jesus was gathered with His closest followers on their way to Caesarea Philippi, He inquired of them what the word on the street was about Him. They replied that some thought He was a reincarnated prophet and some thought He was John the Baptist brought back to life. Then He asked them specifically who they (His closest followers) thought He was, and Peter made his profound and declarative statement, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
And Jesus not only confirmed the truth and accuracy of Peter’s declaration, He also said that on the basis of that eloquent statement, that He’d build His ekklesia, His assembly, His movement. Peter’s profound and declarative statement was the rock that Jesus was referring to that He’d build His church on.
And He made it crystal clear to them that death would not overcome His ekklesia. Not His death, and not their deaths. Nothing was gonna stop His new movement. And it didn’t. And it hasn’t. And it won’t.
And some of those same closest followers of Jesus would document why His death was not the death of His movement. And the reason why Jesus’ death was not the death of His movement is because Jesus didn’t do what all other dead people do ~ He didn’t stay dead.
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no. the tithe is an income tax invented by governments to fund the state church, such as the anglican church in great britain. the "tax" on which the "modern" tithe is based, is the Old Testament 10 percent share of agricultural production in ancient Hebrew society to make sure the priestly class (levites) had enough to eat. the priestly class raised herb gardens to tax themselves 10 percent of the crop to and meet the letter of the law. Yeshua Messiah never mentioned the "tithe" in the NT. yes, He did say, repeatedly, for believers to be generous, from the heart. there are many, many ways to give, including money.
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