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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. But still irrelevant to anyone with an 8 inch twist 260 Rem equipped with a 2.950 inch binderless mag. Remington dropped the ball on not advertising the 260 Remington. Hornady did, now everybody (Remington, TC, Ruger...) has the 6.5CM. the 260 Remington is a great cartridge, but unfortunately it is a small club that are rooting for it. i personally know of one 260 Rem and he is my neighbor. I never did depend on advertising to tell me what I liked. Remington did build properly equipped 260s with 8 twist barrels. I have two rifles so equipped. I used a Kreiger barrel to get 8 inch twist on a Ruger 77 MK all weather in 260, the other MK II all weather is still in factory form.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. But still irrelevant to anyone with an 8 inch twist 260 Rem equipped with a 2.950 inch binderless mag. Remington dropped the ball on not advertising the 260 Remington. Hornady did, now everybody (Remington, TC, Ruger...) has the 6.5CM. the 260 Remington is a great cartridge, but unfortunately it is a small club that are rooting for it. i personally know of one 260 Rem and he is my neighbor. I never did depend on advertising to tell me what I liked. Remington did build properly equipped 260s with 8 twist barrels. I have two rifles so equipped. I used a Kreiger barrel to get 8 inch twist on a Ruger 77 MK all weather in 260, the other MK II all weather is still in factory form.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Remington did build properly equipped 260s with 8 twist barrels. Didn't they arrive a bit late to the party?
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Campfire Kahuna
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I shoot 264 Kreed,260 and 260 AI in Custom spouts wearing AICS binderless mags. Hint.
Pass the Kreed and hold the Fluff. Hint………….
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. But still irrelevant to anyone with an 8 inch twist 260 Rem equipped with a 2.950 inch binderless mag. No flies on the .260 Remington at all. But even the company that brought the .260 to market has given up on it. The 6.5 Creedmoor sure as hell isn't magic but, damn, talk about an easy button for all levels of shooters. That “company” is famous for mucking up a list of good rounds. But that other company didn’t mess up the Creed. They rolled it out after careful research, supported it with good ammo, listened to shooters. Green missed that boat/opportunity more than once. DF
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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. A .697 BC at 2700fps,really upsets the cart and is a bitter pill for Couchbound Karens. Hint……… The 6.5CM is at the confluence of a great number of human factors.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. But still irrelevant to anyone with an 8 inch twist 260 Rem equipped with a 2.950 inch binderless mag. No flies on the .260 Remington at all. But even the company that brought the .260 to market has given up on it. The 6.5 Creedmoor sure as hell isn't magic but, damn, talk about an easy button for all levels of shooters. Yep, it’s the whole package, good round, well supported with good ammo, inexpensive rifles that shoot bug hole groups. What’s not to like, especially for the casual shooter who doesn’t reload. Even the hard care Loony has to admit it’s a better mouse trap. I guess the Creed is too easy, too complete a package for the Loony, who loves to travels a more challenging and tortuous road. DF
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Remington did build properly equipped 260s with 8 twist barrels. Didn't they arrive a bit late to the party? They arrived WAY late in migrating to 8-twist barrels. But even then, what good was that mag box is factory guise?
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Remington did build properly equipped 260s with 8 twist barrels. Didn't they arrive a bit late to the party? They arrived WAY late in migrating to 8-twist barrels. But even then, what good was that mag box is factory guise? They late more times than not. Long list of blunders. DF
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A lot of the 6.5 CM owners are coming out of the closet. 6.5 CM pride. It's time you and every other swingin' dick just accept it for what it is - a very capable and tremendously popular chambering. But still irrelevant to anyone with an 8 inch twist 260 Rem equipped with a 2.950 inch binderless mag. Remington dropped the ball on not advertising the 260 Remington. Hornady did, now everybody (Remington, TC, Ruger...) has the 6.5CM. the 260 Remington is a great cartridge, but unfortunately it is a small club that are rooting for it. i personally know of one 260 Rem and he is my neighbor. When I first started hunting deer in Alabama 20 years ago all the old guys who were from there used 260s. Honestly I had never even heard of it. I was as aware of all the chambering back then. I lived in a world of 243, 270 and 30-06 hunters. When I got home I researched the 260 and I remember I thought to myself , wow, those old guys know what they need. I thought it would be tough to locate ammo for a 260 but so I figured a 7mm08 would be close and ammo easier for me to get. So I went route. Now that I can afford stock up on ammo when its available ammo isnt as much of concern.
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Campfire Kahuna
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There’s no good Factory ammo for any of those chamberings. Hint.
The 264 Kreed trumps them all,over the counter . Hint………
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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7mm-08 and other calibers like 300 H&H will continue to decline in popularity because old timers that either grew up with them or were there as with 7mm-08 when it was first introduced are dying off. New generation is attracted to new shiny calibers.
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Funny enough, at 53, I am a huge 7x57 fan. I never had an itch for 7mm-08 or 6.5 CM for that matter. 7x57 can do it all, and as a reloader's proposition, can be loaded hotter than 308 and softer than 243. Huge versatility. It's history also keeps it interesting. If you don't reload, yeah, pick up a 308 or 6.5 CM.
The newest chamberings in my locker are 243 (1955) and 308 (1952). The rest are old designs that work well for me: 8x57, 7x57, 45-70, 7.62x39, 22LR etc.
Last edited by Kurgan; 07/18/23.
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Funny enough, at 53, I am a huge 7x57 fan. I never had an itch for 7mm-08 or 6.5 CM for that matter. 7x57 can do it all, and as a reloader's proposition, can be loaded hotter than 308 and softer than 243. Huge versatility. It's history also keeps it interesting. If you don't reload, yeah, pick up a 308 or 6.5 CM.
The newest chamberings in my locker are 243 (1955) and 308 (1952). The rest are old designs that work well for me: 8x57, 7x57, 45-70, 7.62x39, 22LR etc. i use the 500 Linebaugh which was first designed in the late '80s (i'm thinking of '87, but i'm not sure) is my newest. then it is a 7-08 or 30 and 357 Herrett (1972). i was 45+/-yo when i decided to give up all of my "plastic" rifles and buy wood and blued steel rifles. 22 Hornet, 444 Marlin, 7.65x53 Argentine, 7x57, 8x58, 9.3x57, 6.5 and 7.35 Carcano, 6.5x55, 45-70, 30-40 Krag, 30 Remington and the one '06 (Arisaka type 99). oh, the newest chambering is a 20 Vartarg (221 Rem Fireball necked down to .204", it was in 2000-10's). i love 7x57 since i was 13 or 14yo. i was out in the woods and it was buck season. i heard a bang off to my side. i waited for 10 - 15 minutes and then i ambled on over. i came to 6 pt who was field dressed and a guy wiping off blood from his hands. we got to talking and i says, what did you get him with? he goes the 7mm Mauser (which was a Ruger #1) and 175gr RN (i think it was a factory load, Remington?). well, the rifle and the cartridge stuck to me and i always wanted to have them. still do, even tho i own a Ruger #1 in 270 Win. when i was 22ish yo, i and my gunsmith did a FN 98 Mauser action, with a Timney trigger, D&T for a scope mount, bend the bolt handle, Fajen synthetic wood stock, 3-9x Swift and a 20" Douglas featherweight barrel in 7x57. i loaded up up 139gr Hornay FN with IMR4320 and it went to 1/4 -1/2" at 100 yards (5 shots/bench). i took her out that year and i got a 22pt......honest, i did. well, it was small 6pt with little nubs that could hold a wedding ring. i gave it to my family and friends and told them what is it? i got 6 to 22 points. i still have it ......somewhere? anyway, i can't remember the number of deer i have killed with it, but the time came to give it to my oldest son. he was 16 or 17yo when he had a growing spurt. 5' nothing to 6'1". he continues to kill deer with the 7 Mauser.
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There’s no good Factory ammo for any of those chamberings. Hint.
The 264 Kreed trumps them all,over the counter . Hint……… For sure. DF
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Never hunt with caliber younger than you..
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New generation is attracted to new shiny calibers. I don't think its as much that as it is simple availability.
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Combine the fact that the Creed is a great design and well executed, with the fact that it was the only thing you could find in rifles and ammo, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that it has become so popular.
I love the 7mm-08, but if I was starting out new and not up to my ears I'm 7-08 components, I'd be getting a creed.
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Never hunt with caliber younger than you.. If ya really old, that cuts out way too many rounds. DF
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Never hunt with caliber younger than you.. If ya really old, that cuts out way too many rounds. DF Could Ingwe still use a 7x57?
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