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It's just that simple. It really is.

That is all there is to it, thank you.



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Originally Posted by BrentD
Oh, I'm very smug - yeah right.

So, where did you answer my questions? As I thought; no class.

How much has the deer herd decreased as the wolf population has risen from 500 in the 1970s to 3000 today? The deer herd has not decreased since then. What is your point? I don't argue it. in fact, I agree that the deer herd, under wise management by DNR Wildlife, my sister section, has risen while wolves have increased in number. I have made that very point many times on this forum.

What field work do you do that my students read about in class - or even could reasonably be expected to read? Here is the part of one of my posts that you ap-parently have a problem with: [color:#FF0000] "I'm a science guy too, but I DO and I learn. I'm one of the guys who do the field work that you read and tell your students about" I have to guess which part of my posts you have misinterpreted and have caused you to form an errant opinion of my "cause" because you will not answer my questions as to where in my posts you get such weird ideas. The statement, if you read it, says that "I am one of the guys"..... In other words, it is a general statement that I too am a "science guy", even though I am in management now, and my data collection and other work is not considered "pure research" (noticed I didn't use the word "research" in my original post) by smug research types. I don't know exactly what you teach in your classes and made no claim that you would use work done specifically by me; that's why I used "guys like me." However, my recent work has been developing new survey protocals, local IBIs and other fish community databases, watershed geomorpholgy data bases, along with trout habitat improvement projects, river restoration techniques, wilderness watershed surveys, plant and fish community surveys, long-term thermal habitat monitoring (on account of projected global warming- the last subject you went weird on me about). Lake trout spawn takes, fish stocking, survey reports, management plans, etc. etc. take up some of my time, along with varous publications, including new survey manuals, fishing guides, etc. And I CAN WIGGLE MY EARS!! Big deal, I AND YOU are just like the many others who work with biotic systems. My statement was a general statement about how teachers often rely on databases and other site specific and new methodologies built by field people like me. However, you read the worst into it and are now demanding proof, in hopes of besting me somehow. I find it interesting that a guy who studies small mammal communities (you trap mice in Iowa) can somehow portray himself as above others, when your work may be of some importance, but is certainly not exciting. And specifically, your reading comprehension suffers greatly, which I will demonstrate as soon as you answer the questions fairly posed to you by me and others. Perhaps you would post your entire name so others can google you, or better yet, post your school web site so everyone can read up on your qualifications and past work. That would answer ranger's question. I won't post your info without your permission.[/color]

So, have at it.


So there. I answered your questions first, even though you refuse to answer ones posed to you before you ignored them and posed your own questions. Classy of me, eh?
Your turn:
1)What is my cause?
2)Show me where I'm as "radical in" my "name calling and declarations as "they" do in their's." Where did I refer to "pro-wolfers" as "greenie [bleep]?"

Oh.. and 3) I'm still waiting for you to explain the last claim you made against me.. as to how guys like me are making the "planet and society so screwed up."


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dpole, your cause seems to be to jump on anyone that you don't like. Right now, that seems to be me.

You don't make points when you are badgering anyone and everyone. Look at your last post. You're about to burst a gasket. Golly gee whiz dpole - this is the internet. chill a little.

AS for screwing up the planet, the entire "if you ain't with me, you're against me" thing is so damn prevalent here on the net and it ain't getting anyone anywhere. Take you and I for instance, we are basically on the same side. Yet, if I do anything even slightly contrary by your books, you are all over me like a wet rag.

Meanwhile you can post anything you want about me. I mean how much worse can it get? You've already beat me up one side and down the other. Anyone with half a brain should be able to reach any of my webpages in 4 clicks or less.

I just got back from my "unexciting" field work and it was damn unpleasant in addition to the unexciting part, but someone has to do it. I suspected from your tone of writing that not only do you presume that others do my fieldwork for me, but you also don't think much of college folk in general.

Meanwhile, I need to go out and buy a few more hatchets and neoprene gloves for my techs so we can chop out traps and handle animals at dawn. So, until then you can lay waste to me all you want.

Oh yeah, my work involves predator-prey interactions (among other things). This particular time the mice are the predators (would you believe one of them is carnivourous, runs in packs, howls at the moon, and is venomous?). The general principles of predator-prey systems are something I know a little bit about. I don't think that puts me above anyone. But it does have relevance to wolves and ungulates etc.

I also volunteer my time for a few public hunting organizations (PF, Ikes, etc) and I constantly watch them shoot themselves in the foot be attacking anyone and everyone that ain't "one of us".

Now, I gotta git, so keep warm,

Brent

PS. I don't recall going weird on you ever. I don't recall NOT going weird on you over global warming either. But whatever. I got [bleep] to do.



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Originally Posted by BrentD
dpole, your cause seems to be to jump on anyone that you don't like. Right now, that seems to be me.
Thanks for answering one of my questions, but that's not my cause.
You don't make points when you are badgering anyone and everyone. Look at your last post. You're about to burst a gasket. Golly gee whiz dpole - this is the internet. chill a little. Completely calm. I tried to answer your questions thoroughly and you now accuse me of badgering everyone, not making ponts, burst a gasket, blah.. How about just answering the questions, thoroughly and calmly, like I did?

AS for screwing up the planet, the entire "if you ain't with me, you're against me" thing is so damn prevalent here on the net and it ain't getting anyone anywhere. Take you and I for instance, we are basically on the same side. Yet, if I do anything even slightly contrary by your books, you are all over me like a wet rag.

Meanwhile you can post anything you want about me. I mean how much worse can it get? You've already beat me up one side and down the other. Anyone with half a brain should be able to reach any of my webpages in 4 clicks or less.

I just got back from my "unexciting" field work and it was damn unpleasant in addition to the unexciting part, but someone has to do it. I suspected from your tone of writing that not only do you presume that others do my fieldwork for me, but you also don't think much of college folk in general.

Meanwhile, I need to go out and buy a few more hatchets and neoprene gloves for my techs so we can chop out traps and handle animals at dawn. So, until then you can lay waste to me all you want.

Oh yeah, my work involves predator-prey interactions (among other things). This particular time the mice are the predators (would you believe one of them is carnivourous, runs in packs, howls at the moon, and is venomous?). The general principles of predator-prey systems are something I know a little bit about. I don't think that puts me above anyone. But it does have relevance to wolves and ungulates etc.

I also volunteer my time for a few public hunting organizations (PF, Ikes, etc) and I constantly watch them shoot themselves in the foot be attacking anyone and everyone that ain't "one of us".

Now, I gotta git, so keep warm,

Brent

PS. I don't recall going weird on you ever. I don't recall NOT going weird on you over global warming either. But whatever. I got [bleep] to do.



Ya, I'm real bad. The fact is that you apparently construed a post of mine (makes two posts now) in a way I didn't mean it and attacked me for it. I've been trying to resolve the issue by asking you a couple of simple questions so that we can zero in on the problem (makes two posts now), but you just continue to accuse and critisize. It ain't working (makes two posts now-won't be three-I'm done). Like pulling teeth, I tell ya. And in the quest to resolve the issue, the original thread has been trashed. Pitiful waste of bandwidth. I won't be doing that again. Sorry guys. frown


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