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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
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Good work Renegade.



What a moron. Like renegade

So you suck JeffO's dick and love the taste. Sicko.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Nothing quite says retard like “FOAD”

#amiwrong?

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Originally Posted by rickt300
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Nothing quite says retard like “FOAD”

#amiwrong?

Your time is coming.

Yeah? Do tell.


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Here it comes. There will be many, many more of these, all around America, because frankly, any reasonable reading of the 14th Sec3 leads to the conclusion that Trump is DQ’d.

But, of course, it remains to be seen what SCOTUS thinks, and they do bat last on this one. It’ll be relatively soon (for a SCOTUS ruling) because otherwise Trump won’t be on primary ballots.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.


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Rumor that Biden wants to create extreme tax on pot and all its derivatives <vape, edibles, etc.> to fund NY state wetback housing.

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Has anybody tried to explain to the OP that nobody running for the WH has been charged with insurrection much less been found guilty of it. And you cannot have an unarmed insurrection. No such thing as an unarmed insurrection in accordance with the govt's definition of the offense.

I know the OP is braindead but even an idiot can grasp those points.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Here it comes. There will be many, many more of these, all around America, because frankly, any reasonable reading of the 14th Sec3 leads to the conclusion that Trump is DQ’d.

But, of course, it remains to be seen what SCOTUS thinks, and they do bat last on this one. It’ll be relatively soon (for a SCOTUS ruling) because otherwise Trump won’t be on primary ballots.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.
When was he found guilty,Jeffy?


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When did the retards of America start equating charges with being guilty?


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Here it comes. There will be many, many more of these, all around America, because frankly, any reasonable reading of the 14th Sec3 leads to the conclusion that Trump is DQ’d.

But, of course, it remains to be seen what SCOTUS thinks, and they do bat last on this one. It’ll be relatively soon (for a SCOTUS ruling) because otherwise Trump won’t be on primary ballots.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.

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Has anybody tried to explain to the OP that nobody running for the WH has been charged with insurrection much less been found guilty of it. And you cannot have an unarmed insurrection. No such thing as an unarmed insurrection in accordance with the govt's definition of the offense.

I know the OP is braindead but even an idiot can grasp those points.

Sec 3 of Amendment 14 does not require that anyone be charged much less found guilty. It’s self-executing and literally required, similar to say an election administrator not putting someone on the POTUS ballot who’s under 30 years old. An unarmed insurrection is still an insurrection by common legal definition. I haven’t seen the “govt’s definition”, but I’d like to. Got a link?


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
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Has anybody tried to explain to the OP that nobody running for the WH has been charged with insurrection much less been found guilty of it. And you cannot have an unarmed insurrection. No such thing as an unarmed insurrection in accordance with the govt's definition of the offense.

I know the OP is braindead but even an idiot can grasp those points.

Sec 3 of Amendment 14 does not require that anyone be charged much less found guilty. It’s self-executing and literally required, similar to say an election administrator not putting someone on the POTUS ballot who’s under 30 years old. An unarmed insurrection is still an insurrection by common legal definition. I haven’t seen the “govt’s definition”, but I’d like to. Got a link?
Forgetting a little detail in US law called presumption of innocence, eh?

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Sigh.

Go back to the first page, there’s links to the recent scholarship around this issue. This isn’t a court case.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Here it comes. There will be many, many more of these, all around America, because frankly, any reasonable reading of the 14th Sec3 leads to the conclusion that Trump is DQ’d.

But, of course, it remains to be seen what SCOTUS thinks, and they do bat last on this one. It’ll be relatively soon (for a SCOTUS ruling) because otherwise Trump won’t be on primary ballots.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.
Trump has not been charged with insurrection or rebellion. Try again.

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Sigh.

Go back to the first page, there’s links to the recent scholarship around this issue. This isn’t a court case.
Presumption of innocence permeates every aspect of US jurisprudence.

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Originally Posted by benchman
Trump has not been charged with insurrection or rebellion. Try again.

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Interesting that Florida has chosen to be the litmus test, as to whether this is a legally sound theory.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
When did the retards of America start equating charges with being guilty?


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Originally Posted by benchman
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Here it comes. There will be many, many more of these, all around America, because frankly, any reasonable reading of the 14th Sec3 leads to the conclusion that Trump is DQ’d.

But, of course, it remains to be seen what SCOTUS thinks, and they do bat last on this one. It’ll be relatively soon (for a SCOTUS ruling) because otherwise Trump won’t be on primary ballots.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.
Trump has not been charged with insurrection or rebellion. Try again.

Yep. I wonder how big the Patriots gun was who told Smith and Fani not to go there? Sounds like they will railroad Trump on the trumped up charges. Qs Shot Heard Round The World? Is that when the left has Antifa and BLM start the riots while wearing face masks and MAGA gear and National Guard is sent to 14 major cities? Do they round up the pukes and hand out LEGAL BALLOTS? Is that how Trump wins? What is meant by, "All assets will be deployed"?

Does Trump win the election from prison and then pardon himself?

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
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Has anybody tried to explain to the OP that nobody running for the WH has been charged with insurrection much less been found guilty of it. And you cannot have an unarmed insurrection. No such thing as an unarmed insurrection in accordance with the govt's definition of the offense.

I know the OP is braindead but even an idiot can grasp those points.

Sec 3 of Amendment 14 does not require that anyone be charged much less found guilty. It’s self-executing and literally required, similar to say an election administrator not putting someone on the POTUS ballot who’s under 30 years old. An unarmed insurrection is still an insurrection by common legal definition. I haven’t seen the “govt’s definition”, but I’d like to. Got a link?

But then you moron if you don't need to be charged or found guilty then you have committed no crime. In that case anyone could be found unable to run for office. As for election interference you could easily charge the FBI, suppressing political speech and important voter information, Crossfire Hurricane, Russia Hoax (attempted coup) pick one. I didn't see any of these things happen on J6 so why are you bringing it up?

insurrection
ĭn″sə-rĕk′shən
noun

The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.A rising up; uprising.The act of rising against civil authority or governmental restraint; specifically, the armed resistance of a number of persons to the power of the state; incipient or limited rebellion.

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Interesting that Florida has chosen to be the litmus test, as to whether this is a legally sound theory.

I have no idea how this will play out but the "House" did issue criminal referrals, one of those criminal referrals was for "aiding an insurrection". This might come down to who has the best lawyers and their legal arguments.

Jan. 6 committee issues criminal referrals against Trump and lawyer Eastman

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The committee alleged violations of four criminal statutes by Trump, in both the run-up to the riot and during the insurrection itself, as it recommended the former president for prosecution to the Justice Department. The charges recommended by the committee are conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, conspiracy to make a false statement and aiding an insurrection.


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