Is it anyway to recover her? Have any rock climbing buddies, friends with rappelling gear? Any rock climbing onion-heads you can whip up down at Starbucks?
The mountain is too dangerous. I was headed to go up, but my wife stopped me. She said she couldn't lose us both. I've been there many times, and a lot of chukar live on the steep face. A lot of hunters hunt the canyon at it's base, but I have never seen anyone on the face or even up it 10-20 feet.
Ya but what about someone else? Like a local climber?
That would take work, money and planning to rescue a hunting dog and family member
Better to get a back yard breeder to replace a rare hunting breed like a wired haired pointing griiff
That's a bit of a low blow. I know of a dozen rock face mountainsides in Nevada that no one should climb. It's all crumbling shale. Lots of false holds that would pop off if you tried to grab them. None of that volcanic rock is stable. What's the point? Dogs dead. Let her lie.
When you're working with working breeds as a human being you should know all of the risks and prepare for them before sending the dog in to work with you.
I spend 3 months hunting chukar a year. I use griffs. why would an upland hunter send his dog in unsafe areas with no safety back ups or safety plans? no e collar, no training , no gps? Why would a hunter send his dog in a dangerous cliff area blinded with no visual of his dog and no way to avoid a dangerous situation and no way to call his dog from a dangerous cliff area and have no back plan if schit goes bad when his dog is injured or can't get out ? Why would an an upland hunter get a dog from an uncertified breeder especially when he cant afford a good upland dog?
this was a plugged up situation from the beginning
maybe more insight from you ....
So many questions. What’s your point? Why don’t skip all the questions and just state your opinion instead of the twenty questions routine? Reminds me of the way most females communicate.
Has anyone told you you are a pompous ass today? If not, let me be the first.
As a long time wired hared grif owner I know this as many back yard breeders have got into breeding selling puppies to make a buck to non hunting customers
No reputable griff breeder or hunting dog breeder would give away puppies random on the internet without a thorough background interview and just offer them over the internet, but as an upland hunting dog owner im sure you know this lol
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is it anyway to recover her? Have any rock climbing buddies, friends with rappelling gear? Any rock climbing onion-heads you can whip up down at Starbucks?
The mountain is too dangerous. I was headed to go up, but my wife stopped me. She said she couldn't lose us both. I've been there many times, and a lot of chukar live on the steep face. A lot of hunters hunt the canyon at it's base, but I have never seen anyone on the face or even up it 10-20 feet.
Ya but what about someone else? Like a local climber?
That would take work, money and planning to rescue a hunting dog and family member
Better to get a back yard breeder to replace a rare hunting breed like a wired haired pointing griiff
That's a bit of a low blow. I know of a dozen rock face mountainsides in Nevada that no one should climb. It's all crumbling shale. Lots of false holds that would pop off if you tried to grab them. None of that volcanic rock is stable. What's the point? Dogs dead. Let her lie.
When you're working with working breeds as a human being you should know all of the risks and prepare for them before sending the dog in to work with you.
I spend 3 months hunting chukar a year. I use griffs. why would an upland hunter send his dog in unsafe areas with no safety back ups or safety plans? no e collar, no training , no gps? Why would a hunter send his dog in a dangerous cliff area blinded with no visual of his dog and no way to avoid a dangerous situation and no way to call his dog from a dangerous cliff area and have no back plan if schit goes bad when his dog is injured or can't get out ? Why would an an upland hunter get a dog from an uncertified breeder especially when he cant afford a good upland dog?
this was a plugged up situation from the beginning
maybe more insight from you ....
How do you know so much about the breeder? I assume anyone spending money would do their due diligence regarding lineage, health certs, ect...
Actually, I do know this. I just didn't equate a father in law making a generous offer to someone as proof that the actual breeder was unscrupulous. Silly me.
"The Ballpark burgers were free, why not eat them?" - Wabi-
If you guys need help transporting the puppy, I live in the south end of the Salt Lake Valley and will be coyote hunting around Elko the weekend after this and could help with transportation
I know more than the averaged uniformed idiot who doesn't hunt with dogs . you've never hunted upland or waterfowl with a dog, I know this much based on your ignorant posts. lol
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is it anyway to recover her? Have any rock climbing buddies, friends with rappelling gear? Any rock climbing onion-heads you can whip up down at Starbucks?
The mountain is too dangerous. I was headed to go up, but my wife stopped me. She said she couldn't lose us both. I've been there many times, and a lot of chukar live on the steep face. A lot of hunters hunt the canyon at it's base, but I have never seen anyone on the face or even up it 10-20 feet.
Ya but what about someone else? Like a local climber?
That would take work, money and planning to rescue a hunting dog and family member
Better to get a back yard breeder to replace a rare hunting breed like a wired haired pointing griiff
That's a bit of a low blow. I know of a dozen rock face mountainsides in Nevada that no one should climb. It's all crumbling shale. Lots of false holds that would pop off if you tried to grab them. None of that volcanic rock is stable. What's the point? Dogs dead. Let her lie.
When you're working with working breeds as a human being you should know all of the risks and prepare for them before sending the dog in to work with you.
I spend 3 months hunting chukar a year. I use griffs. why would an upland hunter send his dog in unsafe areas with no safety back ups or safety plans? no e collar, no training , no gps? Why would a hunter send his dog in a dangerous cliff area blinded with no visual of his dog and no way to avoid a dangerous situation and no way to call his dog from a dangerous cliff area and have no back plan if schit goes bad when his dog is injured or can't get out ? Why would an an upland hunter get a dog from an uncertified breeder especially when he cant afford a good upland dog?
this was a plugged up situation from the beginning
maybe more insight from you ....
Know all the risks and prepare for them all? If you are as experienced as you say, you know that's not possible. Hunting with dogs is inherently dangerous for the dogs. Scheit happens. I've never lost one hunting but I know of much better handlers than myself who have
how many days did you upland hunt with your dogs this year?
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is it anyway to recover her? Have any rock climbing buddies, friends with rappelling gear? Any rock climbing onion-heads you can whip up down at Starbucks?
The mountain is too dangerous. I was headed to go up, but my wife stopped me. She said she couldn't lose us both. I've been there many times, and a lot of chukar live on the steep face. A lot of hunters hunt the canyon at it's base, but I have never seen anyone on the face or even up it 10-20 feet.
Ya but what about someone else? Like a local climber?
That would take work, money and planning to rescue a hunting dog and family member
Better to get a back yard breeder to replace a rare hunting breed like a wired haired pointing griiff
That's a bit of a low blow. I know of a dozen rock face mountainsides in Nevada that no one should climb. It's all crumbling shale. Lots of false holds that would pop off if you tried to grab them. None of that volcanic rock is stable. What's the point? Dogs dead. Let her lie.
I spend 3 months hunting chukar a year. I use griffs. why would an upland hunter send his dog in unsafe areas with no safety back ups or safety plans? no e collar, no training , no gps? Why would a hunter send his dog in a dangerous cliff area blinded with no visual of his dog and no way to avoid a dangerous situation and no way to call his dog from a dangerous cliff area and have no back plan if schit goes bad when his dog is injured or can't get out ?
this was a plugged up situation from the beginning
maybe more insight from you ....
While I don't disagree with much of what you just said, I don't see the point in rubbing it in. Or even pointing it out. Sounds like a lesson was already learned the hard way.
I know more than the averaged uniformed idiot who doesn't hunt with dogs . you've never hunted upland or waterfowl with a dog, I know this much based on your ignorant posts. lol
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by RUM7
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is it anyway to recover her? Have any rock climbing buddies, friends with rappelling gear? Any rock climbing onion-heads you can whip up down at Starbucks?
The mountain is too dangerous. I was headed to go up, but my wife stopped me. She said she couldn't lose us both. I've been there many times, and a lot of chukar live on the steep face. A lot of hunters hunt the canyon at it's base, but I have never seen anyone on the face or even up it 10-20 feet.
Ya but what about someone else? Like a local climber?
That would take work, money and planning to rescue a hunting dog and family member
Better to get a back yard breeder to replace a rare hunting breed like a wired haired pointing griiff
That's a bit of a low blow. I know of a dozen rock face mountainsides in Nevada that no one should climb. It's all crumbling shale. Lots of false holds that would pop off if you tried to grab them. None of that volcanic rock is stable. What's the point? Dogs dead. Let her lie.
When you're working with working breeds as a human being you should know all of the risks and prepare for them before sending the dog in to work with you.
I spend 3 months hunting chukar a year. I use griffs. why would an upland hunter send his dog in unsafe areas with no safety back ups or safety plans? no e collar, no training , no gps? Why would a hunter send his dog in a dangerous cliff area blinded with no visual of his dog and no way to avoid a dangerous situation and no way to call his dog from a dangerous cliff area and have no back plan if schit goes bad when his dog is injured or can't get out ? Why would an an upland hunter get a dog from an uncertified breeder especially when he cant afford a good upland dog?
this was a plugged up situation from the beginning
maybe more insight from you ....
Know all the risks and prepare for them all? If you are as experienced as you say, you know that's not possible. Hunting with dogs is inherently dangerous for the dogs. Scheit happens. I've never lost one hunting but I know of much better handlers than myself who have
LOL. Ok. Not looking for an online pissing match.
"The Ballpark burgers were free, why not eat them?" - Wabi-
This thread is an emotional rollercoaster. Deep sadness over Rosie's death to grinning about GTC22's most thoughtful and generous offer of a pup and Bruce's acceptance.
Right on guys.
It's a place where good people do great things.
We will arrange to pick up Posy in Richfield UT. Rosie is still so much of our very beings, but a Posy needs to have an Emily to learn all the bad habits: chew up toys, urp on the rugs not the water proof floor, eat catschidt rokka from the cat box, scatter my shoes and socks where I can't find them, dig holes under the back porch, beg at the table (and always get rewarded), chase the cat, scatter the folded laundry, bark at a mouse farting, track mud in and onto Peg's new bedding...
Everyone please wish for GTC22's success today. He PM'd me from his black powder elk hunt spot. What a super guy.
Bruce, that's a heartbreaker! I don't know you, and I'm not even a dog guy. But my daughter and son in law are. Their Griffon, Sage, had a beautiful litter and they've sold all but one or two females. I think they've been getting $1500, but PM me and I'm sure I could get you the 24Hr Campfire 100% discount.
Bruce, that's a heartbreaker! I don't know you, and I'm not even a dog guy. But my daughter and son in law are. Their Griffon, Sage, had a beautiful litter and they've sold all but one or two females. I think they've been getting $1500, but PM me and I'm sure I could get you the 24Hr Campfire 100% discount.
There's more happy hunts ahead!
GTC22
I nominate this man for a Beaver award!!!
I second the motion !
Paul.
"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
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