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I voted for Trump the first time because of what he said he was going to do. Voted for him the second time because of what he had done.

I don't remember either time when voting for him that I voted based on who he said he would appoint to certain positions.

Do I expect him to appoint good people to key positions? Yes. And in many many cases he did.

Do I hold it against him now, or will I in the future if someone with a track record to the contrary, is later exposed for being a slimeball? No.

Feelings don't change what happened.

You already agreed.

I never mentioned feelings. He did a better job than any 40 of us could do, combined. Monday morning quarterbacking from a living room chair, after watching the Sunday game from a living room chair, is easy.

Trump did the hard stuff, and did it without fear, and got results.

Let's make this simple.

When Trump was President-elect...did he have a duty to hire and vet his cabinet?...start at VP.

And he did. Who's arguing differently. In case you didn't figure it out yet, cabinet in politics is not an innate object, or a machine, it's freaking people. People hide things, pretend, mislead, have ulterior motives, and even if none of that initially, people change.

You do an interview, you look at resume's. If you could prove to me he hired people with bad resume's, I'd agree.

He doesn't know these people personally. You hire or give the okay based off that. No different than any other business. I imagine he's made some bad hire's over the yrs and ended up having to fire people in his personal business, as does every business.

You people. You act like Trump had the time to personally hire everyone in his organization that ended up being a backstabbing slimeball. He came into politics without personal knowledge of much except knowing he knew how to run big things, make things happen and get things done, which he did.

He personally hired some, and the vast majority of them are still behind him, and many of them fought daily with some of the establishment hires. The establishment hires came from people already in the system that he trusted and delegated responsibility to. Way too many positions for him to learn about and take care of personally.

Pence was a bad choice. But how many of you were saying that before 2020? I was never a Pence "fan", no reason to be. But I also thought he was okay as vice presidents go before the 2020 pandemic, and then subsequent election. They don't do much. I was wrong, and so were many of you.

IMO if he gets in this time he should put somebody like General Flynn in charge of all the inside hiring. And they still wouldn't get it all right. I mean, you do need some experience in the different fields. Not every position can be filled by your favorite no BS next door neighbor.

You said he was too busy earlier. Hence this entire convo

I said he couldn't hire everybody, some he hired personally, some off of recommendations. Still just said the same thing. "You hire or give the okay based off that."

We can play silly semantics and word game gotcha's all day. It will get neither of us no where.

What evidence do you have to support this?

This isn't semantics. You said and wrote what you said.

Did he mess up the VP pick?

No 2 to be President.

Yes or no?

After he got back stabbed by just about everyone, I dont think he will trust anyone.. Even Paul Ryan was on some dumb TV show, and he said anyone but Donald Trump.. The whole swamp hates him. Plain as day. The swamp is so deep he will have a hard time filling his cabinets.

Holy crap man. I already said Pence was a mistake. Do I hold it against Trump?? Heck no. The mistake came out almost a full 4 yrs later. You, me, others in his cabinet, conservatives in the house, the senate, and 99% of every Trump supporter on the fire was fine with it up until then. Including you I suspect since you didn't directly answer the question posed to you earlier.

Let me guess you need the definition of "is?"

Semantics. Smh