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Have always been impressed with Steiners. Solid as a tank

I have one scope with a BDC reticle. It's a Swarovski z5 with a BRH:



I found this reticle to be very useful because it taught me that I'm definitely a fan of simple reticles. That's why it's the only one I own. But I can see why some shooters might find it useful depending on the type of shooting they're doing & the environment they're in. I think my "dislike" of this type of view is more an indication of my preference for simplicity (I love hunting with my Ruger #1 with a fixed 6x42 Leupold) than a criticism of this particular reticle. Vive la différence.

I usually dial with the ones I have but hate not having windage references on the main horizontal line. I usually sight in with the marked 0 on the zero stop dial at 200, or whatever range to best match up with the drops. However, I set the "hard" stop at 100. Gives me the ability to be 0'd at the intersection in woods with the hard stop or move it the the dial's 0 in open areas. It's a good bdc system with the 3 choices of reticles....but the real reason I prefer this reticle to any of NF's other reticles in the 2.5-10 is it's their boldest reticle. Much easier to pick this reticle up in the woods than any of their other reticles. NF really needs to put a bold, measured hunting reticle in the 2.5-10, even if it's SFP.

Do you believe in ghosts?

LOL

You have it all figured out.

I have the 15x56 bino’s along with Toric & rimfire scopes. Mine have performed very well.

The 'price' has moved up, so what does that say to all the 'experts'?

I have Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 scopes on a couple of AR-15's and they have been very good. I primarily shoot them in 3 gun matches so they get bumped around some and they've held up well. The glass is good, the illumination is reliable and daylight bright, and they are fairly light so I have no complaints.

Overall, I like Steiner based on my experiences with these scopes, but I have not used any higher powered Steiner hunting scopes so can't comment on them.

Looks like Steiner has resorted to A.I. sock puppets to sell their products

I've got a GS3 4-20 x 50 with a very similar retical I like well enough.

it rides aboard an M1A. for some reason I'm remembering this particular model was actually made in the USA does this sound correct I'm looking right now to see if I can find markings without dismounting it..

Inflation is real?

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* Well, that is a logical explanation, yet not true. Look at Leupold and all other scope brands. Their prices have remained the same or even possibly been slightly discounted. The fact is the Steiner 4 2.5-10x42 is proven to be an outstanding scope with clear optics and 'accurate'.

* You're a dreamer with a filthy mind, actually "PERVERTED"!

They do -- but unfortunately they limit it to the European market and will NOT do a reticle change for you. That Euro line is called the Ranger and much the same as the Predator other than the reticle, which is very similar to the Zeiss #60. Unlike Steiner's HXi series, the illumination is done very well in the Ranger. It is adjustable to an extremely dim level and is good enough to use in twilight.

Funny thing is: the Predator is made in Germany and only sold in the US. The Ranger is made in the US and sold only in Europe.

I have had both -- a 2.5-10x50 Ranger 4 and a 4-16x50 Predator 4 -- and can tell you that the glass is superb in both. Reliability was not an issue, either, as they tracked as they should and held zero. But I prefer the sheer simplicity of the Ranger's reticle for my usage.

After I bought the 2.5-10x50 Ranger 4, I liked it enough that I wanted to add the Ranger 6 3-18x56 and give it a whirl. But by then, Optics Trade EU in Slovenia already had the door slammed on them by Steiner and were no longer able to send those scopes to the US. My 2.5-10x50 had slipped through by mistake.

There is one way around that, though: a used scope. That's because Steiner can't dictate what a vendor does with a used product. Have been watching for a Ranger 6 for a while but haven't had any luck on that end.

Steiner is not the only manufacturer guilty of this. Early on, Zeiss did not release any of the 2-12x50s in the V6 series here in the US. This scope -- coupled with the wonderful #60 reticle and brand-new illumination system -- checks a lot of boxes for hunters and is a fantastic optic. The very first time I inquired about this, I was told they didn't offer a scope in that magnification range, which was simply not true. They were widely available in Europe and in stock just about anywhere I checked. I'm not sure if the many phone calls numerous shooters made to Zeiss had any bearing, but that scope is now available in the US, though they recently bumped the price to north of $2K.

Zeiss also took away the Victory HT series of scopes from the American market. They are still widely available in Europe but not here anymore.

Many here loved the Swarovski PH series that was supposedly "discontinued." But they were just cut off from the American market and -- even after all these years -- are still are offered across the pond. They lived on as the Z4 and then Z4i (illuminated). Those original PH scopes remain -- in my opinion -- as one of the best choices of hunting optics out there.