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I have a 300WSM in Tikka, converted to LA and it works perfectly. I currently am having a 7mm SAUM built on a Defiance XM 3.2" box. I have hopes.
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Most accurate factory rifle I have ever owned was a Savage 110 chambered .223. BIG spacer block at the back of the magazine. Routinely shot 5 shot groups in the .4's, occasional .3's. at 100 yards. Would have no qualms if that is what I wanted to do...
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I don't think Steven's ever made a short action. They were all Steven's 200 with different bolt faces, different mag boxes. I’m not familiar with Steven’s? Who/what is that? A Savage brand. For many, many years, all Savage bolt rifles were built on the long action. I have a model 112 varmint weight in 22-250. It was purchased in late '80s. I have a Savage 22-250, now on its second barrel. It's a long action and functions fine. Those using 7x57s as an example are stating the obvious as a 7x57 won't really work in a 2.8" sorry action, whereas the 22-250 is just the opposite-a very short cartridge.
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FWIW, there wasn't a SA Mod 70 until the 80's or 90's. With the pre-64 everything from .22Hornet - .458 WM all on the same action.
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I almost had a 700 LA done in a fast twist 243. Wanted the extra leg room for longer bullets.
Went with a 6CM in a SA instead but think the 243 would have worked fine as well.
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I don't think Steven's ever made a short action. They were all Steven's 200 with different bolt faces, different mag boxes. I’m not familiar with Steven’s? Who/what is that? A Savage brand. For many, many years, all Savage bolt rifles were built on the long action. I have a model 112 varmint weight in 22-250. It was purchased in late '80s. Yep, my .308 110 had a shorter magazine and (IIRC) the magazine cut out in the bottom of the receiver was shorter too. Feed just fine that way.
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Couple years ago I had everything lined up to build a 6mm Remington on a long action 700,which they should have been from the factory imo. At the last minute when I already had everything at the smith I decided to try a 6 cm so I called and asked if everything would work all the same. He said it should…. I know in the end he had to do a little extra work to get everything to feed 100 percent, but works how it should now.
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Couple years ago I had everything lined up to build a 6mm Remington on a long action 700,which they should have been from the factory imo. Agree .... I had a 257Roberts done on a 700 LA and like it.
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In process of putting together a 7SAUM on a 700 long action. Will either be bdl or Adl as I havnt decided yet. Ability to long seat heavy bullets was why I went this route.
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In process of putting together a 7SAUM on a 700 long action. Will either be bdl or Adl as I havnt decided yet. Ability to long seat heavy bullets was why I went this route. I’m seriously considering rebarreling my 700 LA 25-06 to 284 Win for that reason. Just need to decide if I want to shoot the old obsolete 25-06 much longer. 😂
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223 on long action Savage.
22-250 on a long action Winchester.
Both feed fine.
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Made a 338 RCM SA sporter. Seeing I had the reamer is set up a Mark X LA using the reamer a second time and a throating reamer for the 300 gr Sierra MK and the OTM Berger. The OAL is significantly longer. Bullet boattail/bearing surface junction is even with shoulder/neck junction of case. Feeds fine.
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Have a 6mm and.244 Remington on LA model 700’s. Work great.
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I don't think Steven's ever made a short action. They were all Steven's 200 with different bolt faces, different mag boxes. No, the Stevens 200 actually came in two different action lengths and three different screw spacings. Long actions use a screw spacing of 5.06", the stagger feed (discontinued) SA had a screw spacing of 4.27", and the current center feed SA rifles are 4.40". The Savage Axis rifles all use the same length action.
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Did a 6mm AI on a 700 long action. Has a fast twist barrel and is throated to seat long bullets a long way out. Works well, feeds well. I don’t recall if my smith worked on any feeding issues.
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The 7X57 is on a long action and it is the parent to the 6mm Remington that was put on a short action!! I have a long action 6mm Remington and a 6.5x284 and not problems at all.
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I'm curious what the "waste" is. Please explain.
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Magazine space?? A tiny bit of extra weight for no benefit? 😊
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Weatherby's MK V's have the same action with an accommodating magazine box. I have an M70 FWT in 308 that is a long action. No issues.
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