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20 states have FREE community college. So, first two years of your degree are FREE. Don’t live in one of those states? Move and establish residency. Move and establish residency in a new state? Move for a better quality of life or better educational opportunities? The do nothings that haven’t done sh.it on the campfire hate that. 😂 Those dipshits would, in their pithy semi-literate ways, go apeshit and demand that you stay and “fight”. They don’t know who you should fight or where that fight should begin but damnit they know what others should or shouldn’t do. 😂 It looks like a whole lot of those 20 "free tuition" (not really "free college") states have requirements like you had to graduate high school in that state. Some of them have residency standards beyond just moving there. Even if a kid straight out of high school could somehow afford to move to a different state and get a job that would pay his room and board and for his books, he might still not qualify for free tuition under those programs. Oh, JFC, have you ever listened to yourself whine? So you pay for community college for the first two years (if the kids an under achiever without any AP college credits). Average community college annual cost, this year, is $3,860. “What about room and board, books, cars, the jacuzzi payments, insurance, country club memberships or yoga classes?” Well, WHAT ABOUT THEM? Six guys get together and rent a house, $300 a piece. Drive a beater, don’t get any dam tickets. Don’t eat out, and buy your clothes at Goodwill. It’s not hard, people. Except maybe on the ego. “Can’t work while taking 15 credits”. WTF are Saturdays and Sundays for? I used to do 16 hrs a day on Saturday and Sunday in college, plus 8 hrs Friday night. That’s 40 hrs, in case you failed math class. During breaks I worked 16 hrs a day (two full time jobs), six days a week, only 8 on Sunday and Monday. Finished college in THREE years - never less than 18 credits, up to 21 (anything over 15 was free, lol, couldn’t turn that down). If you don’t WANT to do what it takes to get through college on your own, fine, your problem, but if you say it can’t be done, you’re just making excuses. Engineering major by chance?
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20 states have FREE community college. So, first two years of your degree are FREE. Don’t live in one of those states? Move and establish residency. Move and establish residency in a new state? Move for a better quality of life or better educational opportunities? The do nothings that haven’t done sh.it on the campfire hate that. 😂 Those dipshits would, in their pithy semi-literate ways, go apeshit and demand that you stay and “fight”. They don’t know who you should fight or where that fight should begin but damnit they know what others should or shouldn’t do. 😂 It looks like a whole lot of those 20 "free tuition" (not really "free college") states have requirements like you had to graduate high school in that state. Some of them have residency standards beyond just moving there. Even if a kid straight out of high school could somehow afford to move to a different state and get a job that would pay his room and board and for his books, he might still not qualify for free tuition under those programs. Oh, JFC, have you ever listened to yourself whine? So you pay for community college for the first two years (if the kids an under achiever without any AP college credits). Average community college annual cost, this year, is $3,860. “What about room and board, books, cars, the jacuzzi payments, insurance, country club memberships or yoga classes?” Well, WHAT ABOUT THEM? Six guys get together and rent a house, $300 a piece. Drive a beater, don’t get any dam tickets. Don’t eat out, and buy your clothes at Goodwill. It’s not hard, people. Except maybe on the ego. “Can’t work while taking 15 credits”. WTF are Saturdays and Sundays for? I used to do 16 hrs a day on Saturday and Sunday in college, plus 8 hrs Friday night. That’s 40 hrs, in case you failed math class. During breaks I worked 16 hrs a day (two full time jobs), six days a week, only 8 on Sunday and Monday. Finished college in THREE years - never less than 18 credits, up to 21 (anything over 15 was free, lol, couldn’t turn that down). If you don’t WANT to do what it takes to get through college on your own, fine, your problem, but if you say it can’t be done, you’re just making excuses. Right. Just find five other guys to live with, do all of your shopping at Goodwill, go to school fulltime while pulling sixteen hour shifts on Saturday AND Sunday along with a quick 8 hrs on Friday night for four straight years and never eating out or going on a date. All for a 4 year degree that has skyrocketed in price and decreased in value. Debt forgiveness isn’t the answer IMO but there’s absolutely no reason for a college degree to cost what it does.
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Oh, JFC, have you ever listened to yourself whine?
So you pay for community college for the first two years (if the kids an under achiever without any AP college credits).
Average community college annual cost, this year, is $3,860.
“What about room and board, books, cars, the jacuzzi payments, insurance, country club memberships or yoga classes?”
Well, WHAT ABOUT THEM? Six guys get together and rent a house, $300 a piece. Drive a beater, don’t get any dam tickets. Don’t eat out, and buy your clothes at Goodwill. It’s not hard, people. Except maybe on the ego.
“Can’t work while taking 15 credits”.
WTF are Saturdays and Sundays for? I used to do 16 hrs a day on Saturday and Sunday in college, plus 8 hrs Friday night. That’s 40 hrs, in case you failed math class. During breaks I worked 16 hrs a day (two full time jobs), six days a week, only 8 on Sunday and Monday. Finished college in THREE years - never less than 18 credits, up to 21 (anything over 15 was free, lol, couldn’t turn that down).
If you don’t WANT to do what it takes to get through college on your own, fine, your problem, but if you say it can’t be done, you’re just making excuses. LOL I wasn't whining, just stating some facts. Most of those free community college programs are set up to keep a kid from just moving into a new state and instantly qualifying for the program, even if he could somehow scratch together the dough to do so on his own. They're set up for previously established residents. I did okay in math, thanks. How did you do in reading comprehension? Nothing I said was even close to what you seem to think I said.
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20 states have FREE community college. So, first two years of your degree are FREE. Don’t live in one of those states? Move and establish residency. Move and establish residency in a new state? Move for a better quality of life or better educational opportunities? The do nothings that haven’t done sh.it on the campfire hate that. 😂 Those dipshits would, in their pithy semi-literate ways, go apeshit and demand that you stay and “fight”. They don’t know who you should fight or where that fight should begin but damnit they know what others should or shouldn’t do. 😂 It looks like a whole lot of those 20 "free tuition" (not really "free college") states have requirements like you had to graduate high school in that state. Some of them have residency standards beyond just moving there. Even if a kid straight out of high school could somehow afford to move to a different state and get a job that would pay his room and board and for his books, he might still not qualify for free tuition under those programs. Oh, JFC, have you ever listened to yourself whine? So you pay for community college for the first two years (if the kids an under achiever without any AP college credits). Average community college annual cost, this year, is $3,860. “What about room and board, books, cars, the jacuzzi payments, insurance, country club memberships or yoga classes?” Well, WHAT ABOUT THEM? Six guys get together and rent a house, $300 a piece. Drive a beater, don’t get any dam tickets. Don’t eat out, and buy your clothes at Goodwill. It’s not hard, people. Except maybe on the ego. “Can’t work while taking 15 credits”. WTF are Saturdays and Sundays for? I used to do 16 hrs a day on Saturday and Sunday in college, plus 8 hrs Friday night. That’s 40 hrs, in case you failed math class. During breaks I worked 16 hrs a day (two full time jobs), six days a week, only 8 on Sunday and Monday. Finished college in THREE years - never less than 18 credits, up to 21 (anything over 15 was free, lol, couldn’t turn that down). If you don’t WANT to do what it takes to get through college on your own, fine, your problem, but if you say it can’t be done, you’re just making excuses. Dutch, I did it. Sure as hell wasn't easy. Consumed plenty of Ramen noodles. $2 to work out at the old Y downtown required contemplation. Worked 2-3-4 pt jobs. Fished, crabbed, oystered, spearfished and netted hundreds hundreds of lbs of food. College sweetheart was a Marine Science major and worked for Florida DNR. She could occasionally harvest research bycatch, which could include soft shell crabs, redfish, snook, mangrove snapper, etc. We ate like royalty on those nights. We'd collect tropicals with a slurp gun when diving with her dive shop students on the dive shop's boat and sell them to the local pet shops. We'd gear up with tanks and bottom scrape Marine Science and DNR vessels. Looking back, I sometimes wonder how we actually made it.
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What a bleeding match. LOL
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We got in for 10k just from the first semester. Before the semester ended, her friends that she started college with, all dropped out and started again in the neighboring state. They wanted the college experience and felt that the first school didn't party enough. She knew that was not sustainable for us, so she moved back to Montana and joined the Marines.
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It's not so much the price, it's the gain you get for the expenditure.
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What intrigues me about these (somewhat frequent) conversations, besides the specious "all the boomer's fault" babble, is that no one seems to give a [bleep] that they are paying income, sales, property, ad valorum and other taxes and fees to fund elementary through high school education that costs MORE PER YEAR than college. NCES Public Elementary and Secondary School DataI mean come on! WTF?
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There’s some wisdom right there! That’s how this country was built!
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Yes and gas was .25 a gal, a burger was 2 bucks, etc.
One year at a cheap public university is 20k a year, in tuition alone. No books.
You are out if touch with reality if you believe going to college currently without loans is possible for the avg. person.
Personally I would argue against anyone going to school unless their profession of choice requires it. It's a rip off. I listened to all the boomers.....I shouldn't have.
But if you must, go into public service and do your time. Man, you’ve REALLY bought into the leftist narrative. You swallowed the bait, hook, line and sinker! How about some FACTS? 20 states have FREE community college. So, first two years of your degree are FREE. Don’t live in one of those states? Move and establish residency. Second. The AVERAGE annual tuition for an in-state school, this year, is $10, 940. ( https://www.bankrate.com/loans/student-loans/average-cost-of-college/ ) Your $20K is almost half-right. For two out of four years of the education. Work 40 hrs a week stocking shelves at Walmart or Target at $20 an hour, 80 hrs a week during breaks….that’s $50K a year. Please tell me you can’t pay $11K a year tuition making $50? Pretty please? Here in N.C., a public university will cost about $10,000 per semester, when tuition, room and board are considered. Some are a bit more, some a bit less.
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We have committed to funding the lion’s share of our kids’ undergrad expenses. Anything more will be on them. Our daughter is already planning on going to grad school. She has a good grasp on the cost and seems pretty confident in her decision.
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