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I am not dissing the load in the 760 either. I don’t have a 760 35 Remington. I had a 141, but I sorta doubt the 141 can handle the pressure the 760 can.

With factory ammunition as a guide I tend to try to get the best accuracy within factory level velocity. But I can understand getting higher velocity than factory in certain cases.

An example:

Consider the 25-06, 270, 280, 280AI, 30-06 & 35 Whelen

If a shooter is hand-loading these cartridges in their factory rifle such as a 700 Remington I’d think they could all be loaded as high a pressure as the highest pressure cartridge.

Can a 35 Remington be loaded to the same pressure as other cartridges chambered in the 760? I’ll leave that up to the one who owns one. “Not my call”


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Originally Posted by Bugger
I am not dissing the load in the 760 either. I don’t have a 760 35 Remington. I had a 141, but I sorta doubt the 141 can handle the pressure the 760 can.

With factory ammunition as a guide I tend to try to get the best accuracy within factory level velocity. But I can understand getting higher velocity than factory in certain cases.

An example:

Consider the 25-06, 270, 280, 280AI, 30-06 & 35 Whelen

If a shooter is hand-loading these cartridges in their factory rifle such as a 700 Remington I’d think they could all be loaded as high a pressure as the highest pressure cartridge.

Can a 35 Remington be loaded to the same pressure as other cartridges chambered in the 760? I’ll leave that up to the one who owns one. “Not my call”

Yep. I have a 141 also and stick to book loads on that one. Great old rifles but do not have the lock up strength and were never intended for anything more than the low pressure cartridges they were chambered for.

On your last sentence, I'm not interested in finding out if it can be ran at the same pressure as other cartridges in a 760 either. But book is a measly 35,000 PSI so it can very safely be given a good boost in my opinion while still staying at a very low pressure for a 760 compared to other cartridges. Many in the past have taken those 760 35 Remingtons and simply rechambered them to 358 Winchester.

So suddenly the same receiver, barrel, & chamber metal, is now a 58,000 psi cartridge for the rest of it's days. I felt and still do it's one of those things where you can think past the book in that instance.


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Like PB&J, perfect match, beretzs turned me on too Lever powder for my 336 35 Remington, 220gr Speers at 2175 imo will handle anything in NA this side of 200 yards, sadly i loaded my last box of 50, do have a couple boxes of Speer 180's, i think they'll be plenty tough enough for deer, pigs or any black bear.

The 220's mentioned above are dead on 175 yards when landing three inches high at 100, only two inches low out at 200 where they still swat the piss out of 200 yard steel ; ]

Good luck, it's a great and fun round.


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I am going to work them up in a 336 A. The longer barrel will perhaps improve ballistics.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Like PB&J, perfect match, beretzs turned me on too Lever powder for my 336 35 Remington, 220gr Speers at 2175 imo will handle anything in NA this side of 200 yards, sadly i loaded my last box of 50, do have a couple boxes of Speer 180's, i think they'll be plenty tough enough for deer, pigs or any black bear.

The 220's mentioned above are dead on 175 yards when landing three inches high at 100, only two inches low out at 200 where they still swat the piss out of 200 yard steel ; ]

Good luck, it's a great and fun round.
Gunner have you tried these 220 replacements for the Speers?
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Whar y'all gettin' them thar 200gr Remington CorLokt bullets??? (Enquiring minds want to know.)


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Why would you want to compare loads for the 760 ? The 336 isn't any stronger camming action than the 760.

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Originally Posted by anothergun
Why would you want to compare loads for the 760 ? The 336 isn't any stronger camming action than the 760.

The 35 Remington and the early Remington slide action (14) and semi-auto rifles (12) were designed for lower pressure cartridges. (25, 30, 32, and 35 Remington)
The 336 is/was chambered for many cartridges that are similar to the pressure as those early Remington cartridges. The 35 Remington being one of them.
The 760 was designed for higher pressure cartridges such as the 270 Win.
Loading the 35 Remington for use in the 760 should allow for a step up in performance. Similar to how the 45 Colt loads in the early revolvers are limited in pressure compared to modern revolvers and rifles.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to as far as camming action.


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Originally Posted by Skeezix
Whar y'all gettin' them thar 200gr Remington CorLokt bullets??? (Enquiring minds want to know.)

I bought 16 boxes of Remington 200gr RNCL factory ammo off a guy in I think 2019 IIRC, for about the price of brass a piece. $15.25 a box. I was pulling those bullets and loading my own, but in 2022 I picked up 2 boxes of those Rem 200 gr RNCL bulk bullets off a table for $35 a 100, so now I'm using those. Without looking I think I still have 11 boxes of the factory.


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That 200 grain Remington is the best 35 Remington bullet made in my opinion. Man does it open up.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
That 200 grain Remington is the best 35 Remington bullet made in my opinion. Man does it open up.

They are a good one. I'm glad to have what I do but sure wouldn't be upset if I had more! Haven't been able to buy them as a component for yrs.


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Has anyone tried the Hawk bullets in a 35 of ANY caliber? RZ.


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Before I got a 358 my 336 35 Rem load was 45gr of LVR and a 200 FTX or RN. Both shot outstanding and brass life was 10+ loadings. After I got the 358 my favorite loads are 39 gr of Varget and a 200 gr Hornady RN or 38 and a 200 gr Sierra RN. These were safe in my 336 sp as always work up with caution. I dont think youd ever get enough LVR in a 35 Rem case to hurt it.

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Originally Posted by bbassi
Originally Posted by gunner500
Like PB&J, perfect match, beretzs turned me on too Lever powder for my 336 35 Remington, 220gr Speers at 2175 imo will handle anything in NA this side of 200 yards, sadly i loaded my last box of 50, do have a couple boxes of Speer 180's, i think they'll be plenty tough enough for deer, pigs or any black bear.

The 220's mentioned above are dead on 175 yards when landing three inches high at 100, only two inches low out at 200 where they still swat the piss out of 200 yard steel ; ]

Good luck, it's a great and fun round.
Gunner have you tried these 220 replacements for the Speers?
Fury bullets

I spoke with the guy at Fury about those 220gr bullets. Pretty sure he told me 1500fps is where they perform. I should have asked him what happens at higher velocities without assuming what he meant but, that’s not what I did. I was looking at them for 35 REM and 356 Win

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Would it be ridiculous to shoot Buffalo Bores out of a 141? Not sure how hot those loads are compared to whats been talked about here already.

I’ve heard several people say to stick to JFN ammo in those rifles. And to stay away from hard cast and LVR ammo if you care about the longevity of your rifle.

Trying to find a 141. In turn I am trying to figure out what to shoot out of it.

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Originally Posted by johnhroberts1993
Would it be ridiculous to shoot Buffalo Bores out of a 141? Not such how hot those loads are compared to whats been talked about here already.

I’ve heard several people say to stick to JFN ammo in those rifles. And to stay away from hard cast and LVR ammo if you care about the longevity of your rifle.

Trying to find a 141. In turn I am trying to figure out what to shoot out of it.
I’m the type of person that takes that kind of information with a grain of salt until I see the proof behind the claim. In other words, what kind of experience and evidence did those people present to back that up? A lot of people repeat invalid information on the interwebs just because they heard it from someone else.

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Originally Posted by johnhroberts1993
Would it be ridiculous to shoot Buffalo Bores out of a 141? Not such how hot those loads are compared to whats been talked about here already.

I’ve heard several people say to stick to JFN ammo in those rifles. And to stay away from hard cast and LVR ammo if you care about the longevity of your rifle.

Trying to find a 141. In turn I am trying to figure out what to shoot out of it.

If it is over Saami pressure for a 35 Remington, I certainly would not. And given the speeds I seem to remember being touted by BB ammo, I don't see how it could not be over pressure.

Stick to standard factory loadings which by necessity keep the pressures down at Saami due to rifles like the 141 you mentioned, and much older like 14's and model 8's still commonly being used.

Given the price of 35 Remington ammo, if you can come up with some Speer 180 FN or Sierra & Hornady 200 gr RN, I'd buy them up. You can find brass, you can get the other components, but in 35 caliber, bullets is often the issue right now. Or if you happen to run across some good priced factory ammo buy it up.


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Yeah I hear ya. Couple gunsmiths that work on the 14s/141s particularly say they’ve seen the tips of LVR snap off inside the ‘tube’, sneak their way into the action and cause havoc. Not sure what the deal with hard cast is.

I’ll do some more research.

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Originally Posted by ShadeTree
Originally Posted by johnhroberts1993
Would it be ridiculous to shoot Buffalo Bores out of a 141? Not such how hot those loads are compared to whats been talked about here already.

I’ve heard several people say to stick to JFN ammo in those rifles. And to stay away from hard cast and LVR ammo if you care about the longevity of your rifle.

Trying to find a 141. In turn I am trying to figure out what to shoot out of it.

If it is over Saami pressure for a 35 Remington, I certainly would not. And given the speeds I seem to remember being touted by BB ammo, I don't see how it could not be over pressure.

Stick to standard factory loadings which by necessity keep the pressures down at Saami due to rifles like the 141 you mentioned, and much older like 14's and model 8's still commonly being used.

Given the price of 35 Remington ammo, if you can come up with some Speer 180 FN or Sierra & Hornady 200 gr RN, I'd buy them up. You can find brass, you can get the other components, but in 35 caliber, bullets is often the issue right now. Or if you happen to run across some good priced factory ammo buy it up.
Let’s say BB is probably not a good idea based on hot loads. It appears that somebody has told johnhroberts1993 not to shoot hardcast or LVR at all. What’s the validation behind that?

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I’ve been looking into this. Never thought I’d ever get into reloading, but man I am leaning this way hard. I have heard good things about all those rounds you mentioned, and the 200 Speers.

Would rather find some of those than have to pour lead.

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