Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Key points of Tucker Putin Interview: this is what they don't want you to hear.

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Putin believes that Ukraine is historically part of Russia and it's independent existence is only tolerable if the country is firmly in Russia's sphere of influence.

He believes the CIA engineered a coup that overthrew the legitimate government of Ukraine and replaced it with a western puppet regime in 2014.

He believes the modern nationalist Ukrainian state draws from the legacy of Nazi collaboration during WWII and poses a direct threat to Russian national security. Removing this particular nationalist influence is a key goal of the military operation, which he seeks to achieve through negotiation.

Russia expressed interest in joining NATO during the Clinton administration but was rejected. This lead Russia to feel geopolitically isolated and cut off from the whole western project.

He believes the west is obsessed with weakening Russia as much as possible and that NATO is nothing more than an anti-Russian alliance.

Putin thinks China is now more powerful than the United States and more relevant.

He believes our government is controlled by an entrenched bureaucracy that cannot be changed through elections.

He believes the US and European Union are extorting taxpayers to fund Ukraine's war. He sees no reason why the US continues to support Ukraine.

Gosh that's earth-shattering news. Not.

Of course Putin sees what he is doing as righteous. Did we expect anything else?

Wish both side continued luck in their endeavors. Europe will be a safer place without a strong Russian military and Putin has seen to that. Sooner or later, the average Russian will realize that their best and brightest have been sacrificed in Ukraine for no geopolitical gain.

This is their new Afghanistan. Enjoy...

I see a lot I’d agree with.
In a lot of ways the US has been using Russia as a “spooky” diversion so the powers can avoid having to deal with what China really is.
Not that I love Russia, quite frankly we get more truth out of them than our own government these days however.

Osky

1 The CIA doesn't have the professional competence to overthrow a high school presidential election, much less a country
2.The previous Ukrainian regime was a Russian puppet and just as corrupt as the current one.

Everything else he's got a good grasp of issues.

Now the question is do we belong there fighting a proxy war?

Putin is destroying his military, why not help in that process?

Why do we care? Why should we care? The only Russian military that should be relevant to us are the nukes, and this war affects them not at all.

How bout this:
We let the older brother[Europe] take care of matters in their backyard for once.

They seem to not understand how hierarchy normally works where the eldest brother normally watches out for the younger brother.

We've had the older brothers back for 100 years now.

1. I don't see Russia as our friend but apparently some seem to believe that.
2. Europe put themselves under Putin's boot by becoming energy dependant on him. So the war gave them every opportunity to cut their ties and they should do so.
3. If Putin takes all of Ukraine, then every border state becomes the next target.
4. If the war is allowed to expand, at some point in time NATO becomes involved and that WILL directly involve the US with US soldiers on the ground.
5. We spent more than $8 Trillion on the war on terror and got nothing in return and a heavy loss of life and critically wounded US soldiers. So, a $150 billion is a very small price to pay to ensure the Russian military is decimated and that Putin is eventually assassinated or removed from office by the oligarchs who are running the country.
6. The war has been a Master Class on modern warfare and many of our preconceived notions on fighting a modern adversary has been rocked to the core. Might as well learn a few things at Ukrain's expense.

No we absolutely have no place there!

Cleuless!! We have just aligned Russia with China and jump started the brics alliance. We are witnessing the fall of America and all you war mongering clowns stuck in the 80s can not pull your chit together and figure out what is going on

Russia has oil, raw materials and people. Historically speaking, their losses in Ukraine to this point is just a warm up. It’s been a nasty thing to watch over there, but their military is gaining valuable experience on a modern battlefield.

Just f ucking stop, for the love of God. I have not read a more incompetent break down of what is happening and what should happen than this. Putin is not going to take over any country. He doesnt even want all of Ukraine. Nato and the Cia caused this as usual with regime change and destabilization as always. Ukraine was never supposed to be Nato and was to remain neutral, but somehow nato has bases there as well as all of the biolabs that have been proven to be real. How would you feel if China was building military bases in mexico and threatening us on a daily basis like the war mongering rino pricks and the dems do? You need to get this figured out in your head because you have found yourself squarely on the wrong side

we should be forming a rock-solid alliance with Russia, dissuading them from doing the same with China.

Good luck with that strategy...

Yup

How about we keep our soldiers on our continent and be on friendly terms as much as possible with all nations including the resource wealthy country of Russia. You are right, Russia is not our friend and neither is any other country. De Gaulle said it best "France does not have friends, it has interests". That should be us. Our Navy should be used to keep the waterborne sea trade open and what goes on otherwise on other continents we cannot afford to get mixed up in.

You correctly point out the $$$TRILLIONS spent on the war on terror with nothing worthwhile in return. Correct; we have a lot of common interest and a lot of commonality.

The central bankers have for over a century been pushing the USA into insolvency by keeping our country through our politicians forever involved in far flung intercontinental military adventures. Now we are 30+ TRILLION down and the central bankers are ready to push for one government for earth which was the goal all along. They couldn't get us in the League of Nations in WW1 but we went hook, line, and sinker for the United Nations and even headquartered it here.

Agree 100% Putin took what he wanted which were historically Russian lands and has no interest in occupation of other countries. Our incompetent leaders need an enemy and war so they are poking the bear. According to our state department and Pentagon Putin should have been on his knees long time ago due to the sanctions yet he has grown stronger while we are in deeper debt and huge inflation.

Putin is correct. Our government has used Russia as a scapegoat to interfere in world foreign policy since WWII. Russia has been maligned and Ukraine is a puppet that Obama created. I do not doubt that Ukraine has been corrupt since it's founding. how bout America? Just how saintly are we in that regard? We have toppled governments and inserted corrupt governments all over the world especially South America. once again, how would it feel if Russia put armed warheads on our parameters aimed at us? In my humble opinion he has just cause to confront Ukraine and he made it clear that he has no ill intentions for any other nation including us. Can we say that about Russia?

Except for point 6, you and I are pretty much in sync in our views on this issue.

Point 6 seems to ignore the aspect of air superiority. Without air superiority, the ground forces don't get the level of tactical air support that helps to facilitate their moves on the battlefield. The Ukrainians have limited air force resources and few weapons that would allow them to attack transportation and logistics hubs deep inside enemy territory. Russia is heavily dependent on rail transportation and if you have the right weapons, bridges are always a lucrative target.