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I have a Winchester Ultimate Shadow SS in 300 WSM in very good + condition. I’ve been meaning to figure it’s value and pass along…

It’s been hanging out at the back of the safe….. looks like it’s barely been shot (I haven’t shot it ) Comes with rings & bases…

Highlights include …Lightweight synthetic stock, pre-64 style controlled round feed with claw extractor, made in New Haven, three position safety.

Model 70 Ultimate Shadow SS

https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/discontinued/rifles/model-70-ultimate-shadow-ss.html


Any thoughts on value much appreciated!

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$4-500

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Originally Posted by earlybrd
$4-500
Maybe five years ago.

I’m sure you can find them that low if you shop at the stores bsa shops at. But they will bring $700-$800 anywhere else.

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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by earlybrd
$4-500
Maybe five years ago.

I’m sure you can find them that low if you shop at the stores bsa shops at. But they will bring $700-$800 anywhere else.
I know where one was sitting for yrs for $350

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Looks like a New Haven gun too. Should have a decent trigger.

Also, for some reason I thought the Ultimate Shadow had the combination of controlled round and push feed.


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Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
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$4-500
Maybe five years ago.

I’m sure you can find them that low if you shop at the stores bsa shops at. But they will bring $700-$800 anywhere else.
I know where one was sitting for yrs for $350
A lot of dummies let that one sit.


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Originally Posted by Dave_P
I have a Winchester Ultimate Shadow SS in 300 WSM in very good + condition. I’ve been meaning to figure it’s value and pass along…

It’s been hanging out at the back of the safe….. looks like it’s barely been shot (I haven’t shot it ) Comes with rings & bases…

Highlights include …Lightweight synthetic stock, pre-64 style controlled round feed with claw extractor, made in New Haven, three position safety.


https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/discontinued/rifles/model-70-ultimate-shadow-ss.html


Any thoughts on value much appreciated!

Something that may need to be said is those duratouch stocks get gummy. I know some guys will strip them, and paint them etc, but they are not worth my time. So, when I see one of these rifles, I always consider what a stock is going to cost me. Even if I replace it with a cheap tupperware stock. The rifle shown, even with the stock that goes gummy, will generally bring $800+, though. I'd personally check completed sales on gunbroker, to get a better estimate on true value though. The stainless versions are much more desirable than the blued version. Good luck with it..


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by earlybrd
$4-500
Maybe five years ago.

I’m sure you can find them that low if you shop at the stores bsa shops at. But they will bring $700-$800 anywhere else.
I know where one was sitting for yrs for $350
A lot of dummies let that one sit.


Sounds like the like new 325 WSM extreme weather I saw in Oregon for $600.00 a couple years ago. I damned near bought it at that price, but had no use for a 325.. I agree though, one of these rifles at $350.00 is a no brainer. He must live in a weird part of the US?? I don't think a rifle like that would stick around for a day, at the gunshops I visit.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Looks like a New Haven gun too. Should have a decent trigger.

Also, for some reason I thought the Ultimate Shadow had the combination of controlled round and push feed.

Yes, this is a new haven gun and will have the old style trigger.

And you are correct regarding the CRPF - some of the shadows were.

This one - and all ss ultimate shadows - is crf.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by earlybrd
$4-500
Maybe five years ago.

I’m sure you can find them that low if you shop at the stores bsa shops at. But they will bring $700-$800 anywhere else.
I know where one was sitting for yrs for $350
A lot of dummies let that one sit.
I’m gonna check on it this week 👍

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Winchester/Browning would fix the duratouch for free, just had to mail it to them. Came after a class action lawsuit. I sent a shotgun in and it came back in great condition.

Maybe the window closed on this?

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Winchester/Browning would fix the duratouch for free, just had to mail it to them. Came after a class action lawsuit. I sent a shotgun in and it came back in great condition.

Maybe the window closed on this?

That may be something to look into. However, If I were a betting man, I'd assume they would basically tell you to go and pound sand. I could be wrong though??? Keeping in mind, these rifles were made in the early 2000's (pre 2007). Before Browning took over the model 70 production in 2008.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Neighbor of mine has one I sighted his scope in on it a kickin sonofabitch😳

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Winchester/Browning would fix the duratouch for free, just had to mail it to them. Came after a class action lawsuit. I sent a shotgun in and it came back in great condition.

Maybe the window closed on this?

That may be something to look into. However, If I were a betting man, I'd assume they would basically tell you to go and pound sand. I could be wrong though??? Keeping in mind, these rifles were made in the early 2000's (pre 2007). Before Browning took over the model 70 production in 2008.
I just stripped my Dura Touch stock and had Tarjac redip. Easier than shipping a whole gun.


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Thanks for the input everyone!

I just got home and took a couple more pics…

This was not some low end version, I think I heard some of the original “shadows” were.

List price (in the early 2000’s) was $1030… trigger is very nice… here’s a couple more pics… close to perfect shape!

Model 70 Ultimate Shadow SS
https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/discontinued/rifles/model-70-ultimate-shadow-ss.html

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There were black shadows (all black, push feed, std and mag calibers - 270, 30-06, 7mm Rem, 300 win mag, etc), Super Shadows (std/magnums/WSM/WSSM with CRPF actions - controlled round push feed), and Ultimate Shadows (stainless and blued, std/magnum/WSM with Controlled Round Feed actions). Black and Super Shadow stocks didn’t have the rubberized overlays on the grip and forearm like the Ultimate Shadows,

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Winchester/Browning would fix the duratouch for free, just had to mail it to them. Came after a class action lawsuit. I sent a shotgun in and it came back in great condition.

Maybe the window closed on this?

That may be something to look into. However, If I were a betting man, I'd assume they would basically tell you to go and pound sand. I could be wrong though??? Keeping in mind, these rifles were made in the early 2000's (pre 2007). Before Browning took over the model 70 production in 2008.
I just stripped my Dura Touch stock and had Tarjac redip. Easier than shipping a whole gun.

Sounds like a good option. The stocks really aren't that bad, until they go gummy. They are actually pretty light too. If dipping them isn't too costly, that would be a great option.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Thanks all… I’m no expert, and enjoy learning from everyone here…


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