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Originally Posted by centershot
Dang that sucks. Hope your insurance company comes through.


I'm sure that the insurance company will also go through the lithium battery supplier for damages

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Elkhunter1945: Damn I am so sorry to here of your loss/troubles.
Stay strong and thanks for the advice on the safe.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My house burned down in 1991. My family lost about 98% of our stuff. We all got out unhurt. Since then all the stuff has been replaced, including all of my sporting tools and toys. It'll be hard for you for a while but as time passes things should get better.

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So no one has a sprinkler system in their house, and rely on gun safe for protection

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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
ElkHunter, I realize you have more pressing priorities at the moment, but if you need a loaner rifle to get you through this year's hunting season there are a lot of good guys on this site willing to help, including myself.

Sorry to hear about the loss of your home but glad you all made it out safely.
Also, what sizes of hunting clothing do you wear?


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I wear size shirt XL and paints 42 x 30

Forgot to mention a lot of handguns also burnt

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Sorry to hear
We lost our home 6 years ago to the date to a fire. My safe was a 1500 degree for 75 minutes. The seal broke and smoke entered ruined scopes but no guns. Had some rust, but salvaged all guns. Need any advice feel free to pm

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Here is a picture of some money that was in safe. Top bills smoked rest ok

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Originally Posted by spence1875
Brand doesn’t matter. The fire rating on safes is done with a nice steady time temperature curve, that isn’t a house fire at all. Their whole fire rating thing a sales scam. If there is a fire in the other room and they put it out u maybe ok. If in the room with the safe doubtful.

A typical hose fire gets a fast temp spike when all the combustibles go up at once, typically when structure gives way.

Have a degree in Fire Protection Engineering, remember that from a class even though it was many moons ago.

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Spence is correct, I know a couple of locals whose house burnt and they lost all of their guns==> in safes rated for a fire.

A fire safe may help, I have mine up against a block wall in the basement... but I also have the guns insured.

While I'm at it, Theft! A local dick head gun safe salesman/company put a video up that showed two guys opening a 'decent' quality safe in about three minutes with some hand tools. He's a dick head because it's basically a training video for thieves. I just checked and he still has it up, I didn't post the link because it is a "training" video. The brand that he sells of course can not be broken into... again, another reason for insurance.

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1945
To all those who are interested in the burnt guns I will be more than happy to get rid of them, but will not ship , local pickup only.

We have no pets and my wife and I both got out okay but only had the clothes on our backs.

Fire was started by charging a lithen battery.
Glad you and the wife are safe, That's most important.

I make it a point not to charge lithium batteries in my attached shop. Got a number of power tools that use them, going to build a shed in the yard for my tools AND will charge all of my batteries there.

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Are you Gophergunner's buddy from Ohio (or Pennsylvania?) by chance?


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Sorry for your losses, but glad you're ok.

Would you mind elaborating on the battery being charged?

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Originally Posted by steveredd1
So no one has a sprinkler system in their house, and rely on gun safe for protection
You have a sprinkler system in YOUR house?

Elkhunter, sorry to hear about this! Hope all works out for you and the Mrs.!

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1945
no I am not Gophergunner's buddy from Ohio

That's good. I'm sorry this happened to you.


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Our house burned to the ground in 1971. I still remember finding my Dad's burned guns (actions only) in the rubble. I wanted to restore them in shop class (back when you could take guns to school!), but the teacher advised me against it ("They've been heat tempered; you'll blow your head off!").

I was on the local volunteer fire dept a few years back. During a house fire (total loss) the owner asked me to focus my hose stream on a "refrigerator" barely visible through the fire and smoke. Turns out it was his gun safe that he wanted to keep cool. I never heard if his guns survived.

Good reminder on the lithiums. I never leave the house with chargers on, and I only charge batteries on a concrete floor away from anything combustible.

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Saving money on a safe is always attractive. Some have a way better fire rating and temp rating than others. The Fin in the Cleveland area used to display a burnt safe but the interior was intact


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So no one has a sprinkler system in their house, and rely on gun safe for protection
You have a sprinkler system in YOUR house?

Elkhunter, sorry to hear about this! Hope all works out for you and the Mrs.!
Steve,

Probably 98% of single family homes in the U.S. do not have sprinklers.

Some municipalities now have codes that require them on new construction, the largest local city here doesn't - the developers opposed them.

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Elkhunter, glad you and wife are fine physically.
Would you care to share any details on the specifics of the barrery, charging, and where it was located.


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@elkhunter1945, when your able and if interested shoot me a PM. I have an old Parker Hale 1200 .270 Win I'll send you. It has been a good rifle to me, it could use a new scope and I'd happily send a NIB 3-9X40 FFII BP along with it.

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