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Re: Will Leupold survive ? Reloder28 #19295400 03/13/24
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Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,954 Likes: 6	Originally Posted by Reloder28 Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Loaded question, but I think a lot of people moved on a long time ago. I did in 1998. In the 70's, Leupold was the premium optic, something to be proud of. My last use of a Leupold was in 1998 when I walked out back and compared a Leupold Vari-X II with a Swarovski Habicht, both 3-9X. There was no comparison. Could be and not a comparison at all for the price difference either. You sorta forgot that point? Mb " Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "

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Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19295555 03/13/24
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,245 Likes: 31 Banana Belt, Montana	Apparently Leupold is surviving. Did some Googling and according to more than one independent site their 2023 gross income was the highest ever, just over $160,000,000.... “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Mule Deer #19295561 03/13/24
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dave7mm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 8,794 Likes: 6 pa	Not all that surprising when you look at where gun sales are. dave Only accurate rifles are interesting.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19295605 03/13/24
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SDHNTR Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,169 Likes: 2	Gross income means very little about a company’s financial health. Last edited by SDHNTR; 03/13/24.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19295655 03/13/24
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flintlocke Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 9,168 Likes: 7 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State	I wonder about market share though. To me, I would think that would be more indicative. Looking at Leupold in the same way that I would examine an individual stock...even though L&S is not publicly traded...I doubt it would be a "buy and hold". Using new gun owners as a metric of growth might look good in the short term...but I think the new low information owners are buying the name and reputation of a once dominant company, not a good foundation for long term market share. Personally I'm not emotional about Leupold, I only have a couple left from 20 or so over the years, slowly trading them out, not because of failures, but because there are a number of low priced scopes that respond to adjustments instantly, and in these years of "out of stock" components, I like to shoot as few shots as possible to verify zero. And it's not just me, I have a number of people who use my shooting range, so I see a broad spectrum of equipment and shooter ability...Leupold tracking is not an imaginary problem..it exists. Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

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Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19295956 03/13/24
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,006 Likes: 2 SD R ruffcutt Campfire Tracker
ruffcutt Campfire Tracker R Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,006 Likes: 2 SD	It’s an eye opener when you realize you can zero a scope with just a couple shots, after enduring years of the “Leupold shuffle”. "I was born in the log cabin I helped my grandfather build"

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Willto #19296021 03/13/24
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Willto There is a weird anomaly here. Visit virtually any other hunting or shooting forum and you don't see 1/20 th of the Leupold bashing that you see here. Oh sure you see the occasional person talking about a problem with a Leupold at other sites but no more than any other brand and far less than some. (I'm looking at you Vortex) Then you come here and there is this little click of people that claim to have had a 100% Leupold failure rate. Nope, never had a good one ever. All 14 of them they have owned all chit the bed in spectacular fashion. Kind of makes you wonder why they kept buying them after the first 6 failed but logical thinking like that just gets in the way of a good story. It's also strange that many of us have had 5 or 6 and never had a wisp of a problem. Odd that the failure rate for some is 100% while being 0% for others. Seems like it would even out a bit more. LOL! I expect any day now to see some newbie trying to make a splash with the "He-Man Leupold Haters Club" by claiming that the Leupold scope he bought crawled off the top of his rifle in the middle of the night; knocked his daughter up, took a huge dump in the guest bathroom without flushing, poisoned the dog; and keyed his car on the way out the driveway. I mean if you are going to exaggerate at least make it interesting. For a select few here it's a competition to see how many Leupold issues they can say they have had or have heard of happening. Match results prove Leupold makes a quality scope, as do others such as LOW in Japan. Leupold Derangement Syndrom is always a sympton of owning [bleep] rifles and the proof of that is the LDS suffer will never let anyone else mount the "bad" Leupold on a good rifle to test. Another interesting pathology of the LDS suffer is how rabid they are in entering every Leupold thread to whine about their failures. One never sees a skilled shooter spend any effort bashing optics brands even if they choose to use something different but the LDS victim always feels a compulsion to do anything to attack Leupold. This thread is a good example. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19296050 03/13/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska	The fhuqking HILARITY of Professional Victims and their Snake Oil,never wanes. Hint. Keep The Hurt Feeler Reports coming. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Willto #19296214 03/13/24
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JeffP Campfire Tracker J Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,471 Likes: 2	At my gun club, leupold isn’t going anywhere. Leupold’s own podcast sold me on moving on… I have a 2-7 on a 22 but that’s my last leupold. Decades of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us just that.....

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Magnum_Bob #19296221 03/13/24
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Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3 Deer Park, Tx	Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob Originally Posted by Reloder28 Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Loaded question, but I think a lot of people moved on a long time ago. I did in 1998. In the 70's, Leupold was the premium optic, something to be proud of. My last use of a Leupold was in 1998 when I walked out back and compared a Leupold Vari-X II with a Swarovski Habicht, both 3-9X. There was no comparison. Could be and not a comparison at all for the price difference either. You sorta forgot that point? Mb Fair enough. I forget more often these days. Optical clarity was the main consideration, weight was secondary. Price was of no concern and the Swarovski was light. Decided to give it a try and have not been dissappointed. By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

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Re: Will Leupold survive ? ruffcutt #19296226 03/13/24
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Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3 Deer Park, Tx	Originally Posted by ruffcutt It’s an eye opener when you realize you can zero a scope with just a couple shots, after enduring years of the “Leupold shuffle”. Hated that!! By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Mule Deer #19296237 03/13/24
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gunchamp Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,128 Likes: 54 mountains of central PA	Originally Posted by Mule Deer Apparently Leupold is surviving. Did some Googling and according to more than one independent site their 2023 gross income was the highest ever, just over $160,000,000.... I believe it. Other than the few haters on here, Leupold generally speaking is well like by many across the nation

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19296246 03/13/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska	Wives' Tales and Blue Haired Cat Lady Hissy Fits,do NOT "enhance" mechanical reliability...but it's never not funnier than fhuqk! Hint. Just sayin'............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19296258 03/13/24
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RemingtonPeters Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 501 Likes: 1 Alberta	I’ve used a Leupold scope to kill hundreds of animals over the past 30 years. Almost exclusively. I could care less what problems others have had as I’ve proven it to myself.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Big Stick #19296279 03/13/24
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Big Stick Wives' Tales and Blue Haired Cat Lady Hissy Fits,do NOT "enhance" mechanical reliability...but it's never not funnier than fhuqk! Hint. Just sayin'............... It's never not funny to watch you step on your LiL Fish. Originally Posted by Big Stick I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue............. This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads. Originally Posted by The Entire 24hr Campfire Membership John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Will Leupold survive ? RemingtonPeters #19296283 03/13/24
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JeffP Campfire Tracker J Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,471 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by RemingtonPeters I’ve used a Leupold scope to kill hundreds of animals over the past 30 years. Almost exclusively. I could care less what problems others have had as I’ve proven it to myself. Honest question Have you ever had to tap the turret or bump the recoil pad between adjustments ? Or has it taken a number of shots to “ settle” your adjustments? Decades of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us just that.....

Re: Will Leupold survive ? Jimmypop #19296305 03/13/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,721 Likes: 54 Paradise,Alaska	Squirms', Keep them Hurt Feeler Reports coming. Hint. Though if only in "fairness",I'm thinkin' only a coupla new scopes have arrived thus far today. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Will Leupold survive ? RemingtonPeters #19296338 03/13/24
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gunchamp Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,128 Likes: 54 mountains of central PA	Originally Posted by RemingtonPeters I’ve used a Leupold scope to kill hundreds of animals over the past 30 years. Almost exclusively. I could care less what problems others have had as I’ve proven it to myself. Same here. Im not a fan boy, but I dont understand all the hate. I guess we have just been lucky all these years

Re: Will Leupold survive ? gunchamp #19296388 03/13/24
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jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,997 Likes: 8 USA	When i switched from Leupold to Nightfirce and Trac Toric I shot the best grouos of my life. I also killed a lot of game with Leupolds but theyvarent the best scope available I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Will Leupold survive ? gunchamp #19296413 03/13/24
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by gunchamp Originally Posted by RemingtonPeters I’ve used a Leupold scope to kill hundreds of animals over the past 30 years. Almost exclusively. I could care less what problems others have had as I’ve proven it to myself. Same here. Im not a fan boy, but I dont understand all the hate. I guess we have just been lucky all these years I have a LiL friend who lives up North in AK and before her life went to shit she had very similar luck with Leupold. Then she caught the LDS and now spends her days rubbing Chi Com optics and setting up staged pictures of fake tests. Originally Posted by Big Stick My 16x,made it beyond 20K,before the A/O puked. Beings it failed,it ain't in the above tally and it is in fact,the only Leupie I've crashed. Broke a 6x42 on installation,but I knowed better(DD's on skewed bridge height,less eccentrics).................. LDS is worse than a crack cocaine addiction on brain cells. Stay in school and don't catch the LDS, Kids. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

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