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I sold a few chokes I didn't want anymore. Decided to use some of the funds to buy a couple Trulock Chokes. They seem to get good reviews.

I bought a Trulock Longbeard XR .665 turkey choke. And a Trulock Deerstroyer (lame name) .710 buckshot choke. Both in Invector Plus. Should have them in a few days.

I'm particularly looking forward to trying the buckshot choke. I've yet to come across an aftermarket extended buckshot choke that outperforms a standard Imroved Modified or Full choke. My Carlsons Buckshot Choke equals them, but doesn't exceed. If the UToob reviews on the Trulock Boar Buster (same as the Deerstroyer) are true, they hold a pretty dang good pattern at 40 yards.

Anyone using Trulocks? Don't hear much about them.

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Heard they are good and Dave Owens brands them.

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I have many Tru-lock chocks and love them, but sorry no experience with their buckshot chokes.

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When I shot the Federal Heviweight #7 shot, Turelock built a choke that did very well with them. George was a true gentleman..


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Originally Posted by Fullfan
When I shot the Federal Heviweight #7 shot, Turelock built a choke that did very well with them. George was a true gentleman..

His sons appear to be, as well. I have to admit, I wasn't altogether committed to trying any new choke tubes. But the gentlemanly demeanor of the sons really was a factor in deciding to give them a try.

What I didn't know until I started researching Trulock was that Trulock makes some chokes for other names. For instance, Trulock makes the Primos Jellyhead chokes.


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The little 28ga Trulock turkey choke. 515 with TSS. Thats what i have in my 28ga.

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I got them today.

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Big fan of the trulock chokes. Always perform well and I have used a variety of constrictions


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That buckshot choke is .710 (.030). Looking forward to trying it. The same choke is also labeled "Boar Blaster." From what I understand, the "Deerstroyer" and the "Boar Blaster" are identical chokes. Both are .030 chokes. The Boar Blaster gets pretty good reviews on UToob, and seems to produce a pretty good patter with smaller count loads. I have some Remington 3" 000 loads I am hoping will pattern well through it.

The Long Beard choke has a longer parallel section than my Carlsons chokes. I tend to think a longer parallel section makes for tighter patterns. Not really sure why I think that but it seems right to me.

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Just browsed around the Trulock website, nice and informative site.


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It seems like they don't port the tubes from these pictures. I should go to their website to see what they say on ports.

Whats your preference on ports? and Why?


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They offer both that I saw, ported or non-ported. I also thought it I interesting that they build choke tubes for specific shells. As far as ported or non-ported, doesn't matter, I'll use either. But did note that Federal used to recommend non-ported with their flite control wads. Tubes I use now are non-ported.


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Never tried them on turkey shotguns but have used them for duck and sporting clays, they worked great


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Trulock are my preferred brand these days. Impeccable machining and excellent patterns. I also use the non-ported models for turkey & sporting clays.

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Trulock (George Turlock) has been my main go-to for years, outside of a few niche folks for a tube here or there. They’re always quality, great to deal with, and are a consistent good bet for starting pattern work. Buy Trulock over anything Carlson, all day long.

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Found a NOS Trulock 12ga .680" extended turkey tube for the Mossberg 835 I recently picked up for $20. After reading this, felt it was well worth the expense to try it.


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I think the .835 has a bore diameter of .777, which is actually bigger than a 10 gauge at .775. Choking that down to .680 (.097) is quite a step down.

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We'll see... I've spent more than $20 on goofier things...


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Well, they make tighter chokes for the 835 than that. I see a listing for a turkey choke in .114, which chokes it down to .663.

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
I think the .835 has a bore diameter of .777, which is actually bigger than a 10 gauge at .775. Choking that down to .680 (.097) is quite a step down.

Those and Browning overbore stuff have barrels that gradually come back to a nominal size for their choke system. I’m also thinking those #s are for maximum bore size. Not sure what ‘cylinder’ is at the muzzle on the 835, but it’s probably closer to 12ga than 10ga. wink

SRM Terror tubes use some type of geometry to go really tight… down to .655, and they work great on Invector Plus and other systems.

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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
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I think the .835 has a bore diameter of .777, which is actually bigger than a 10 gauge at .775. Choking that down to .680 (.097) is quite a step down.

Those and Browning overbore stuff have barrels that gradually come back to a nominal size for their choke system.

Maybe some do, but the Browning does not. For instance the Browning Invector Plus bore diameter is .745. I just measured a Calson's extended choke I have for that barrel that is labeld .665. The inside diameter at the back end is exactly .745. The diameter at the muzzle tip is .663. So it appears the squeeze down occurs solely in the choke.

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Well... received the Trulock choke in yesterday's mail. Complete sucky packaging for shipping, threaded end of the choke got damaged and is no longer round. Going to contact Trulock to see if they can be any assistance and contacted whom I got it from, but so far, no response. So right at the moment, I'm getting different measurements from where I measure it from! Lol! All I can do is try to maintain a sense of humor...


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Did you buy that choke off this website? Did it gety damaged in shipment? That's pretty chitty to send someone a damaged choke. It takes A LOT to get a choke out of round.

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No, not here, and yes, in shipment. Pics prior to shipping show no damage and an as new clam pack. Clam pack, post shipping, looks like it got run over. Found a mandrel out in my garage and got it round again. And some very careful filing got the burr removed and threads cleaned up. Screwed into the barrel without an issue. The barrel choke tube edge seam are flush and good to go.


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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
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I think the .835 has a bore diameter of .777, which is actually bigger than a 10 gauge at .775. Choking that down to .680 (.097) is quite a step down.

Those and Browning overbore stuff have barrels that gradually come back to a nominal size for their choke system.

Maybe some do, but the Browning does not. For instance the Browning Invector Plus bore diameter is .745. I just measured a Calson's extended choke I have for that barrel that is labeld .665. The inside diameter at the back end is exactly .745. The diameter at the muzzle tip is .663. So it appears the squeeze down occurs solely in the choke.



.729 is English ‘nominal’, and Browning’s usually run closer to .742 (their back bore spec) on invector plus….Benelli stuff is closer to .720. Fabarms had various ‘stages’ of bore step down. The Inv Plus system is one, long parallel section, that tends to flare slightly out, right at the choke. The chokes for it have been figured out for a long time, by the manufacturers, with lots of shooter input.
Hastings WLII (IIRC) had a .745 bore and a very stiff barrel, with straight rifling. Terror .675 and .655 tubes are amazing in both systems. How the choke gets from bore dimension to final choke outlet is the thing that seems to make the most difference, not worrying over the #s so much. Counting the intervals, most of my extended, tight invector plus tubes are near 3” long.

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The inside of the barrel goes from chamber diameter to bore diameter to choke. Between the forcing cone and the choke, the bore is just a cylinder. The outside diameter of the barrel may increase a bit towards the muzzle end to accomodate the choke tube.

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Originally Posted by DeanAnderson
No, not here, and yes, in shipment. Pics prior to shipping show no damage and an as new clam pack. Clam pack, post shipping, looks like it got run over. Found a mandrel out in my garage and got it round again. And some very careful filing got the burr removed and threads cleaned up. Screwed into the barrel without an issue. The barrel choke tube edge seam are flush and good to go.

Every choke I’ve ever ordered direct from Turlock was WAY over packaged….always in a plastic clamshell, inside a padded envelope, inside a big, padded box. Short of shipper running over it, hard to see it getting wrecked like that. Trulock has been great to deal with…..for decades.

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
The inside of the barrel goes from chamber diameter to bore diameter to choke. Between the forcing cone and the choke, the bore is just a cylinder. The outside diameter of the barrel may increase a bit towards the muzzle end to accomodate the choke tube.

True with most shotgun mfgs but the newer Fabarm shotguns don't adhere to this inside bore spec. They use a "Tri-Bore" type of ID bore.

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Wasn't from Trulock.


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The 20ga 870 likes the Trulock.555 with TSS #9s at 40

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The 560 Pinhoti from my TC isn’t bad either. I did pull the shot low right though.

Same load/distance.

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