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Originally Posted by Clarkm
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Did you doc push statins on you?

He tried, but I am anti statin.
Same here. They've been pushing me to take statins since I was in my 30s. I know, however, that statins are a misguided approach to the issue, and do more harm than good.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Did you doc push statins on you?

He tried, but I am anti statin.
Same here. They've been pushing me to take statins since I was in my 30s. I know, however, that statins are a misguided approach to the issue, and do more harm than good.

My doctor convinced me it would be best to take statins when I was in my early 40's took them for about 15 years. I no longer take them and have not noticed any spikes in Cholesterol from my every 6-month blood test results.

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You can't trust your lab work or other tests. My Pcp used to marvel at my cholesterol numbers and triglycerides. In the last year I had an echocardiogram that essentially found my heart to be in excellent condition. I had a cardiac stress test I aced because I work out regularly. I had a dopler of carotid arteries that showed minimal plaque buildup for my age. I was eating a balanced diet. March 10 I had a serious heart attack. I needed four stents to get my artery open. I'm on two statins and an anticoagulant. Very strict low sodium diet. When I had my follow-up visit to my pcp after discharge from the icu, he was stunned and almost apologetic. He kept scrolling back through my history on his computer and shaking his head. There was nothing he could see that would have predicted what happened.

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I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.


Your doctor probably also said to take the Covid jab.

I don't trust doctors and I don't trust Big Pharma who are paying off the doctors.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.

Blind faith in today's doctors and drug companies is not very smart. Many are just drug pushers. You should always check out any prescribed drugs before you buy them because you can't take them back for any reason. Many of today's drugs have very dangerous side effects that your doctor or pharmacist won't tell you about and they won't be listed on the info that comes with the prescription. There's several good places online where you can find detailed drug side effects but Mayo Clinic is about the best.

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"My doctor convinced me it would be best to take statins when I was in my early 40's took them for about 15 years. I no longer take them and have not noticed any spikes in Cholesterol from my every 6-month blood test results."

Every cell in your body was made with LDL including your brain. The only dangerous LDL is the small damaged LDL. The small LDL is the one that causes plaque in your damaged arteries. Statin drugs lower all cholesterol not just the bad. Statin drugs also damage nerves, cause liver damage and increase you chance of becoming diabetic.

I had a doctor just like yours (and idiot) when I was in my forties who prescribed Lipitor and a mega dose of niacin at the same time to lower my total cholesterol level despite my HDL being high enough that I didn't need to reduce total cholesterol number. I quit taking niacin when my liver started failing. At the same time he told me I needed to run three 8 minute miles every other day and put me on a diet that didn't include any fat/cholesterol, red meat, egg yolks and no chicken except skinless chicken breasts. I lost 20 lbs. in 3 weeks and was as weak as a kitten. I quit this doctor and stopped taking statin drugs for good

I am one of those people who can't tolerate any statin drugs at all and it probably saved my life.

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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.


Your doctor probably also said to take the Covid jab.

I don't trust doctors and I don't trust Big Pharma who are paying off the doctors.

You and me both.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.


This has worked for me also. I usually ask the doc what are the side effects and are there alternative options.
I’m glad my parents had me take the jab (sugar cube) for polio, measles, mumps etc, instead of worrying if the doc and pharm companies were making too much money.


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Originally Posted by victoro
"My doctor convinced me it would be best to take statins when I was in my early 40's took them for about 15 years. I no longer take them and have not noticed any spikes in Cholesterol from my every 6-month blood test results."

Every cell in your body was made with LDL including your brain. The only dangerous LDL is the small damaged LDL. The small LDL is the one that causes plaque in your damaged arteries. Statin drugs lower all cholesterol not just the bad. Statin drugs also damage nerves, cause liver damage and increase you chance of becoming diabetic.

I had a doctor just like yours (and idiot) when I was in my forties who prescribed Lipitor and a mega dose of niacin at the same time to lower my total cholesterol level despite my HDL being high enough that I didn't need to reduce total cholesterol number. I quit taking niacin when my liver started failing. At the same time he told me I needed to run three 8 minute miles every other day and put me on a diet that didn't include any fat/cholesterol, red meat, egg yolks and no chicken except skinless chicken breasts. I lost 20 lbs. in 3 weeks and was as weak as a kitten. I quit this doctor and stopped taking statin drugs for good

I am one of those people who can't tolerate any statin drugs at all and it probably saved my life.
Could you please tell us your diet/ weight/ health as of now? Very interested. Thanks, Alan

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Originally Posted by victoro
"My doctor convinced me it would be best to take statins when I was in my early 40's took them for about 15 years. I no longer take them and have not noticed any spikes in Cholesterol from my every 6-month blood test results."

Every cell in your body was made with LDL including your brain. The only dangerous LDL is the small damaged LDL. The small LDL is the one that causes plaque in your damaged arteries. Statin drugs lower all cholesterol not just the bad. Statin drugs also damage nerves, cause liver damage and increase you chance of becoming diabetic.

I had a doctor just like yours (and idiot) when I was in my forties who prescribed Lipitor and a mega dose of niacin at the same time to lower my total cholesterol level despite my HDL being high enough that I didn't need to reduce total cholesterol number. I quit taking niacin when my liver started failing. At the same time he told me I needed to run three 8 minute miles every other day and put me on a diet that didn't include any fat/cholesterol, red meat, egg yolks and no chicken except skinless chicken breasts. I lost 20 lbs. in 3 weeks and was as weak as a kitten. I quit this doctor and stopped taking statin drugs for good

I am one of those people who can't tolerate any statin drugs at all and it probably saved my life.
Could you please tell us your diet/ weight/ health as of now? Very interested. Thanks, Alan

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Originally Posted by dale06
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I am not a Doctor, my Doctor is, I take the pills He prescribes.


This has worked for me also. I usually ask the doc what are the side effects and are there alternative options.
I’m glad my parents had me take the jab (sugar cube) for polio, measles, mumps etc, instead of worrying if the doc and pharm companies were making too much money.


Polio was a real epidemic, a real disaster, and the vaccination worked.
Corona was half medicine and half political hype.
The vaccine doesn't work and masks don't work.

Yet most docs pushed the vaccine and pushed the masks.

I feel sorry for you if you believe everything doc tells you.

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Dont forget to blame the insurance companies. They are in large part responsible for the concept of "evidence based medicine" or diagnosis and prescribing by algorithms. This allows NP, PA etc. to follow the" if labs say this then give this" type of medicine and just using the MD lic. as a stamp of approval. Doing this under the propaganda of "reducing the cost of medical treatment". ie lower insurance premiums etc.


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