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https://apnews.com/article/mexico-f...cartels-6e7a78ff41c895b4e10930463f24e9fbMexico’s president said Friday he won’t fight Mexican drug cartels on U.S. orders, in the clearest explanation yet of his refusal to confront the gangs.
Over the years, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has laid out various justifications for his “hugs, not bullets” policy of avoiding clashes with the cartels. In the past he has said “you cannot fight violence with violence,” and on other occasions he has argued the government has to address “the causes” of drug cartel violence, ascribing them to poverty or a lack of opportunities.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Which simply means he is being paid off to do nothing probably a high school buddy of bidens another pos.
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If we had a leader with balls, they would fix Mexico's azz real quick. They need us way more than we need them.
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If we had a leader with balls, they would fix Mexico's azz real quick. They need us way more than we need them. The same financial pressure we are failing with so far on Russia would work real quick with Mexico.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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mexico is America's most existential enemy. Long past time to go to war.
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https://apnews.com/article/mexico-f...cartels-6e7a78ff41c895b4e10930463f24e9fbMexico’s president said Friday he won’t fight Mexican drug cartels on U.S. orders, in the clearest explanation yet of his refusal to confront the gangs.
Over the years, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has laid out various justifications for his “hugs, not bullets” policy of avoiding clashes with the cartels. In the past he has said “you cannot fight violence with violence,” and on other occasions he has argued the government has to address “the causes” of drug cartel violence, ascribing them to poverty or a lack of opportunities. Right. It's better to send them flowers and chocolates. The cause of cartel violence is poverty, in spite of the fact that the cartels are worth billions. Is there any question that Obrador is being paid by the cartels?
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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The key to understanding the Mexican culture...everybody and everything has a price. Everything is for sale. The country has been chaos since 1807 when Spain pulled out, the French tried it and pulled out, the Germans tried it and pulled out in short order. Ungovernable. Even Shell and Standard oil got sent home without a peso for their property in 1938, that's saying something.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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“you cannot fight violence with violence,” Bullfugginshit you can't. You'd better.
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Is there any question that Obrador is being paid by the cartels? And that brings up a question about our president. Does it not?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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Is there any question that Obrador is being paid by the cartels? And that brings up a question about our president. Does it not? That's a fact!
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Mexico has been and forever will be our adversary, and, will always be trying to take back Texas and California. We should have annexed them a hundred years ago.
For present day, whats the old saying..."tall fences make for good neighbors"?
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Is there any question that Obrador is being paid by the cartels? And that brings up a question about our president. Does it not? For sure, that. Weakness encourages chaos. Cartels just about own Mexico and have lots of influence here. Money talks. Of course the Mexican govt isn’t gonna buck their handlers and benefactors. Cartels use Don Corleone negotiation techniques. You agree or they kill ya. They make you a deal you can’t refuse. They only understand strength. We need to elect a strong president or we in even deeper doodoo. DF
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mexico is America's most existential enemy. Long past time to go to war. Democrats are America's biggest threat!
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Cutting off all funds and money transactions going across the border would be a good start.
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Uhhh....where would we get our drugs from then?
Also.....the make believe stock market would take a hit....so that's not gonna work.
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Probably because he cannot beat the cartels.
We need a wall and secure border, and we need it now.
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Cutting off all funds and money transactions going across the border would be a good start. This. Start by taxing remittances at 25% and if that doesn’t work pull out of nafta and impose tariffs commiserate with what we did with china. China just routes all their crap through Mexico now anyway to avoid our tariffs so let’s get stick it to the reds in either scenario plus is makes mfg look that much less appealing to go to Mexico. If we’re not going to physically blow up these 3rd world cesspools for what they’ve done to us, can’t we at least play in other ways like we’re as smart as they are, ffs?!? To Jim’s point about the stock market, yes…it would throw things into a tizzy but would it actually be any worse than what we’re heading for now? Pay now or pay later.
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Cutting off all funds and money transactions going across the border would be a good start. This. Start by taxing remittances at 25% and if that doesn’t work pull out of nafta and impose tariffs commiserate with what we did with china. China just routes all their crap through Mexico now anyway to avoid our tariffs so let’s get stick it to the reds in either scenario plus is makes mfg look that much less appealing to go to Mexico. If we’re not going to physically blow up these 3rd world cesspools for what they’ve done to us, can’t we at least play in other ways like we’re as smart as they are, ffs?!? To Jim’s point about the stock market, yes…it would throw things into a tizzy but would it actually be any worse than what we’re heading for now? Pay now or pay later. It’s all academic until WE get rid of the POS president and congress we have now!!!
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I hope the second thing Trump does if he gets elected. Lock down the border, roll troops across the Rio Grand, take names and kick ass. Clean out the cartels. Gut that sorry ass country for everything it’s worth. Then head North and do the same thing to Canada.
Putin does it and the world just watches, why can’t the US do it.
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How else do you fight violence, other than with more violent violence?
Walk softly, but.....
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