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I think these large predators need to know humans hunt them or they begin to see humans as just more prey. My friend who used to live in Alaska said our grizzly bears in island Park are much bolder and more aggressive than those in Alaska. He thinks it's because the Alaskan ones are still hunted and recognize humans as a predator to be weary of.

Bb

As an aside, when I first started deer hunting in Fall of 1963 in Calif, there was an open season on Mountain lions. You did not need a tag but you were required to have a valid hunting license. There was no limit on how many you could shoot as they were classified as "pests." Realistically you'd have been lucky to shoot one. They're rather secretive and stealthy. From 1963 until 1997 when we left, I saw three and I was up in the mountains a lot. Did not shoot at any as I had no chance.

FWIW.

L.W.

Amen,brother.

These kids wernt leftists, scum, or idiots . Proud family of hunters, and loved the outdoors.
I havnt heard the full story yet , as far as them being armed, etc. In contact with a family member, so will find out soon enough
I know the father was a hunting guide, Republican, and gun lover. Its a shame you lump Ca. people into one group, far from the truth.

Back tracking...

Got an observation and question, I live in the fakahatchee preserve in SW FL, I encounter Fl panthers,what you guys out west call mountain lions, all the time. Just walked up to a female with two kittens a few weeks ago, I have never had any signs of aggression from any encounters and I do not know of any recorded attacks in FL. Why do you think the western cats so much more aggressive. Our cats were crossbred with Texas cats about 20 years ago because of our shrinking habitat and resulting inbreeding but the even before that they never showed any aggression. Maybe us Floridians just don't taste as good.

fakahatchee;
Good afternoon, well evening no doubt for you all, welcome to the 'Fire from just across the medicine line in south central BC.

Again with the firm understanding I'm an expert in not very much and big cats aren't part of that.

When we have a bad winter here, it's not unusual at all for ranch and rez horses to get clipped by a cougar.

As well I recall hearing that the late guide outfitter from one valley east of us was pushing a big tom one winter and it killed 3 adult moose in a bit more than a week. He figured that was unusual and it wouldn't have done that if they hadn't been pushing it.

Still and all, one has to imagine wrestling a horse or moose down with your teeth and claws when it outweighs you several fold and isn't remotely interested in going gently into any good night has to take a fair amount of determination.

If I was guessing then and for sure it's that - a guess - I'd guess maybe it's somewhat learned behavior in that the western ones learn to kill bigger stuff and more variety of stuff.

Again welcome to the 'Fire.

Dwayne

Used to be decent deer hunting around Stumpy Meadows Reservoir and Uncle Tom's cabin outside of Georgetown. My deep condolences to the family.

I had a coworker that told the story of his grandfather riding fence on horseback in the snow when a mountain lion in a tree jumped on his back and killed him.

Loved Stumpy Meadows and Hell Hole area . Me and some highschool friends would take an aluminum boat to the east end, and camp next to the Rubicon river . Would usualy stay 5-7 days, and not see another sole . No trouble with lions then , they were legally hunted , but plenty of rattlers.

Thanks for the welcome, been a lurker for years. The ease of finding an easy meal might be part of it, there is a lot more panthers than there was 30 years ago and they sure are doing a number on our deer and hog population.I've got about 15 deer that I feed on my property every day and we lost one of our older does last Dec. to a panther, found her remains, all covered up, about a 1/4mile from the house.We lose half of the fawns every year to panthers, bobcats and bears.

let`s put it this way : did or do these critters have a collar on their neck ? that`s how you decide ?

You noticed that too, eh?

He’s right, it’s a free country, he can show his ass all he wants. I didn’t expect the cowardice, though.




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But, if you consider the source, is it all that unexpected?

Not sure what you mean, if you are referring to the deer, they are wild and come and go as they please, just enjoy there presence. I know panthers got to eat.

So, two young guys, out shed hunting, in a very rural area, are likely to be "leftist scum"?

Hi fakahatchee. I tend to doubt the western cats are more aggressive than your Florida cats. Just thousands more lions spread out over numerous states out west and the odds catch up every so often and somebody gets attacked. Out west, virtually anyplace that has brush or trees for cover and deer, will have a lion using the area when they make their rounds.

Now you know as much as they are telling us. I don't personally know the rancher, or if he allows/insists his hands bring a rifle with them or carry. I also don't know if he'd pay the legal fees were one of his hands to kill and endangered species while performing duties for him. That would probably cost him quite a bit more than the value of the dead calf. Also, according to this story, there is no proof the wolf/wolves killed the calf, just that one was eating on it.

So the hand saw the wolves on the calf and didn't get at least 1 killed??

That dude would be hunting a new job.[/quote]

Why? Because he didn't tell everyone every detail about what happened? Most of the time it's best to shut up.

We've spent hours and hours out in our local "woods" Lonny and the only lion we've seen is one my wife saw from her car when it crossed the road as she was headed to work 5 or 6 years back.

That doesn't count all the time I worked in the woods in NorCal doing stream surveys for a timber company, or all the hunting time I've put in while living in various states including up by you. We did have at least one come through the housing area at Lower Granite as I was driving in one night after work. Ran down the road in front of my car.

Condolences to their family from Alturas.