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The backfire guy is a skinny-fat beta male that survives off of clickbait. Dude is clueless. Follow a youtube channel worth a dam thlr.no
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I personally would not have chosen the 300 win mag for a 100 shot challenge. Interesting video.
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I went right to the second video and quit watching after about 90 seconds when the dude shooting is obviously so much of a rookie that he has no clue how to fire a rifle from prone
No rear bag and left hand on the fore end
Pathetic Same. The Burns vid. I don't think people realize the wind there. Looked a little stiff from the grass blowing in the background. Pretty damn good shot. Specially at something breathing. Also, the factory tikka a the vortex or whatever with factory ammo in some of the vids? Yea.....not gonna happen.
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Plus the first dude gets busted right between his running lights while 'sighting in' or whatever.....lmao
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I saw that video a little while back. It's an excellent example of the lies a lot of us tell ourselves.
I really enjoy shooting out to 1000 yards (about as far as I can get) but I've realized about 450 and in is where I can consistently make hits in field conditions. It may be "lies", for some guys that don't shoot that far very often. A lot of guys have a hard time shooting 100 yards. Then again, there are a lot of guys I know that don't have any issue at all shooting at 600 yards. As an example, one of the targets I shoot at, in competition, is a rabbit silhouette at 611 yards. No rear rest and from the prone, off a pack or bipod. 400-500 yards is short range, for some guys. That's where I set the steel chucks at, and they are only 3" wide. At 400 yards, a good shooter and rifle should produce sub 1" groups. Even most of my hunting rifles will shoot 2" groups at 400 yards. It's really not that far of a shot, if you are set up right. I agree with you 100%. I'm just making the point that there are a lot of guys running around with a cheap vortex with knobs and unconfirmed dope on their rifles that absolutely believe they are somehow now 600 yard hunters even though they have never shot their rifle at a target past 100 yards.
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The backfire guy is a skinny-fat beta male that survives off of clickbait. Dude is clueless. Follow a youtube channel worth a dam thlr.noHe is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds. [.270 Winchester laughing] GR
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He is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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You might add laying on your belly like Lizard, if you can't shoot without laying down you might as well stay home and take a nap Rio7
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I am guessing that the width of a gallon of milk is around 6 inches wide and around 9 or 10" high. I know we have some high shoulder shooters and then we have heart lung shooters. When you take those two areas for a width, the dimensions (not milk jug for sure), are going to be different-Definitely wider. Then when you start talking different big game animals, the kill zones will vary as well. People who hunt at distance, who are good at it, do not make distance alone the deciding factor of whether to shoot or not. It is just one of many. If you took 2 good shooters/similar rifles and ballistics levels and have them shoot the same course on two different times or in two different conditions. One condition is the closest thing to a dead calm, while the other one is wind at 15 gusting up to 30 miles per hour, and at times dropping below 10 mph. We all know the end result. Switch the shooters to the opposite conditions, and let them shoot the same course of fire-No surprises what the outcome will be.
The large chamberings/heavy bullets lightweight rifles will pound people to death when setting down 100 rounds at a time. I don't know of anyone who is going to put 100 rounds with a magnum hunting rifle down at a time to practice. Maybe some here do that though...It's possible
Do I think this is a cool challenge? Yes Do I think I would clean it? NO Would it be humbling at times? Yes Would it be fun and good practice? Yes Would I use a large magnum cartridge to shoot this challenge? NO Do I recognize that going to a lighter kicking gun may cause me to give up a performance edge, but I will probably shoot better overall, because the gun behaves better, and is not beating me up? Yes Do I run 100 rounds plus fouling shots between cleanings on large case capacity cartridges or shoot that many rounds at a time? NO
I have watched several of his videos and enjoyed them
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Damn, the wind demons are bad enough, but, you've GOT to start with hitting dead center at 100, it's a goat roping [bleep] if you don't, great vids, Thanks MM.
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He is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds.
GR This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You might add laying on your belly like Lizard, if you can't shoot without laying down you might as well stay home and take a nap Rio7 Standing-to-Sitting/sling/5-second interval - no bi-pod or rangefinder. That determines a rifleman's hunting range. It would be a clown-show to watch any'of'm try that. GR
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He is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds.
GR This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You might add laying on your belly like Lizard, if you can't shoot without laying down you might as well stay home and take a nap Rio7 Standing-to-Sitting/sling/5-second interval - no bi-pod or rangefinder. That determines a rifleman's hunting range. It would be a clown-show to watch any'of'm try that. GR It determines your definition of a rifleman's hunting range...I am good with that. Enjoy your definition and time frame. If I can't get in a steady/solid enough position before the animal moves, I don't pull the trigger, and the animals lives at least for awhile longer.
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He is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds.
GR This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You might add laying on your belly like Lizard, if you can't shoot without laying down you might as well stay home and take a nap Rio7 Standing-to-Sitting/sling/5-second interval - no bi-pod or rangefinder. That determines a rifleman's hunting range. It would be a clown-show to watch any'of'm try that. GR I agree with that and being a 'rifleman' and a great shot under hunting circumstances. We are talking long range here. Like past 600 is what I consider long range. That's gonna require what Rio calls "the lizard position" and some rear stock support, a damn good rig, and some serious optics to consistently pop your target. If I were to take that guy up on his challenge, which 100 shots is damn near impossible to hit in a row, but I'm bringing an nxs 22 power, suppressed, front support as well as rear, and I'm shooting the ol 6.5x284. Leave the magnum at home. Out to 600, shoot, a 243 win and heavies could do that. 100 for 100 on anything is pretty tough.
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Throw a time limit in there like mentioned above, yeah, that'd be a schit show.
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Like watching a Jerry Lewis Telethon. Hint.
Bless their hearts...........
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I thought the vids were a good demonstration of long range realities vs expectations for the vast majority of shooters.
I'm no expert by any means, but I've shot enough long range in the field, to grasp some realities.
A milk jug is a pretty small target, only about 6" wide by 8" tall if you ignore the spout area. At 500 yards, a 1 moa rifle shooting 5" groups at 500 yards, has very little room for any error in wind call, or an unstable position.
Anyhoo, sharing these vids here has brought out some good shooting discussion. Sure beats talking politics and other current events.
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I get the context,but it was rough to watch and I bailed early. Hint.(grin)
The choice of equipment a bitter pill too,but very few actually have a first fhuqking clue. I've long found milk jugs to mimic critterly vital sizing and a nice barometer of equipment and conditions...but at 500yds I'm generally shooting chicken eggs! Hint.
Just dropped my Taxes off,looks like new glass arrived in the Mail and a Crazy Pard arrives tomorrow,so the stage is set for a Right Proper Spring Fling Cast & Blast if he listens. Hopefully he doesn't forget to bring card readers. It appears like Chrome is gonna cooperate and because he's not a Gun/Hunting Guy,it might could be interesting to turn him loose at LR,if only to see WTF. Rest assured it won't be a 300Mag,Vortex or Factory Fodder. 4 weeks off is a GRIND! Hint.
Just sayin'...................(grin)
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A sporterweight 300 WinMag isn't something I'd care to shoot much (at all).
Enjoy that 4 weeks!
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He is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds.
GR This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You might add laying on your belly like Lizard, if you can't shoot without laying down you might as well stay home and take a nap Rio7 Standing-to-Sitting/sling/5-second interval - no bi-pod or rangefinder. That determines a rifleman's hunting range. It would be a clown-show to watch any'of'm try that. GR I agree with that and being a 'rifleman' and a great shot under hunting circumstances. We are talking long range here. Like past 600 is what I consider long range. That's gonna require what Rio calls "the lizard position" and some rear stock support, a damn good rig, and some serious optics to consistently pop your target. If I were to take that guy up on his challenge, which 100 shots is damn near impossible to hit in a row, but I'm bringing an nxs 22 power, suppressed, front support as well as rear, and I'm shooting the ol 6.5x284. Leave the magnum at home. Out to 600, shoot, a 243 win and heavies could do that. 100 for 100 on anything is pretty tough. Throw a time limit in there like mentioned above, yeah, that'd be a schit show. Not as difficult as a 100-round practical rifle match, but similar. Cleaning a 100-round day/match is basically unheard of.
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I get the context,but it was rough to watch and I bailed early. Hint.(grin)
The choice of equipment a bitter pill too,but very few actually have a first fhuqking clue. I've long found milk jugs to mimic critterly vital sizing and a nice barometer of equipment and conditions...but at 500yds I'm generally shooting chicken eggs! Hint.
Just dropped my Taxes off,looks like new glass arrived in the Mail and a Crazy Pard arrives tomorrow,so the stage is set for a Right Proper Spring Fling Cast & Blast if he listens. Hopefully he doesn't forget to bring card readers. It appears like Chrome is gonna cooperate and because he's not a Gun/Hunting Guy,it might could be interesting to turn him loose at LR,if only to see WTF. Rest assured it won't be a 300Mag,Vortex or Factory Fodder. 4 weeks off is a GRIND! Hint.
Just sayin'...................(grin) I wanted to bail early, but stuck it out to the end for the entertainment value.
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The backfire guy is a skinny-fat beta male that survives off of clickbait. Dude is clueless. Follow a youtube channel worth a dam thlr.noHe is simply spotlighting that even confident "Long Range" shooters - can't hunt past normal ranges w/o their concrete benches and lead-sleds. [.270 Winchester laughing] GR Yes, you'd know something about that. (Hint....it's you)
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