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From what I read collectors and hobbyists are exempt, that being said, that can be quite subjective to them I'm sure.
Basically guys constantly flipping guns for profit without an ffl are who they are after...so they say Yes, but what's the definition of "constantly." It's subjective, and therefore vague, prone to arbitrary decision making when it comes to whose home to raid (and murder the occupants therein) with arrest and prosecution in mind.
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From what I read collectors and hobbyists are exempt, that being said, that can be quite subjective to them I'm sure.
Basically guys constantly flipping guns for profit without an ffl are who they are after...so they say Yes, but what's the definition of "constantly." It's subjective, and therefore vague, prone to arbitrary decision making when it comes to whose home to raid (and murder the occupants therein) with arrest and prosecution in mind. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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From what I read collectors and hobbyists are exempt, that being said, that can be quite subjective to them I'm sure.
Basically guys constantly flipping guns for profit without an ffl are who they are after...so they say First, they came for the socialists and I did not speak out ------because I wasn't a socialist. Etc, etc, etc...........
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About forty years ago a man I know had a hobby of buying old WW2 era rifles at gun shows and cleaning them up, developing loads and shooting them. He would sell one that was now a shooter and buy another neglected one. And then the BATF&E told him he was a dealer and get a license or go to jail. No consideration for cost of supplies or components, just being at gun shows.
From what I saw this new PR blitz has a new term. Unlicensed Dealers. Along with assault weapons and the gun show loophole our children and democracy are unsafe.
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"It's a terrible thing when governments send their young men to kill each other." Charles Byrne,WW2 Vet. On the day Desert Storm began.
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From what I read collectors and hobbyists are exempt, that being said, that can be quite subjective to them I'm sure.
Basically guys constantly flipping guns for profit without an ffl are who they are after...so they say First, they came for the socialists and I did not speak out ------because I wasn't a socialist. Etc, etc, etc........... They are setting up a system of disarming and punishing people. Later they can target who they want, to manipulate political ends
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I had heard nothing on this from GOA? They sent me emails. You should have seen something
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A federal agency tasked with enforcing regulations on implements that the constitution specifically forbids the gov't from regulating in the first place. That cat should have been put back in the bag a long time ago.
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I just emailed Tom Cotton & John Boozman my senators.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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ATF and Acetone makes a good penetrant and/or gun cleaning fluid. Maybe we could use it as an enema for BATFE agents, since it seems like they're full of schidt!
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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These S.O.B.'s are also going thru the list of small gundealers and gunsmith that are mostly repair shop and might sell 3 or 4 guns a year and claiming the guy isn't doing enough sales, to be a dealer, just a hobby , not making a profit from, his work therefore should not be allowed to have a license, and shutting them down also . I think the end game is to make sure only the biggest dealers can still be in business, making it easier for them to get control of who has what when it comes time to shut everything down
there is no man more free than he who has nothing left to lose --unknown-- " If it bleeds we can kill it" Conan The Barbarian
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I had heard nothing on this from GOA? They're already preparing lawsuits to stop this BS... FJB! He can take his E.O. and shove it up his A. H.
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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These S.O.B.'s are also going thru the list of small gundealers and gunsmith that are mostly repair shop and might sell 3 or 4 guns a year and claiming the guy isn't doing enough sales, to be a dealer, just a hobby , not making a profit from, his work therefore should not be allowed to have a license, and shutting them down also . I think the end game is to make sure only the biggest dealers can still be in business, making it easier for them to get control of who has what when it comes time to shut everything down And mega corporations buying up reloading equipment/supplies , ammo companies , firearms+++ . They'll use our tax dollars to pay off the owners/producers to close the businesses. And JerryJoe McBubba will be convinced it's safer for the kids.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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I had heard nothing on this from GOA? They're already preparing lawsuits to stop this BS... FJB! He can take his E.O. and shove it up his A. H. I can tell that you don't like biden.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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These S.O.B.'s are also going thru the list of small gundealers and gunsmith that are mostly repair shop and might sell 3 or 4 guns a year and claiming the guy isn't doing enough sales, to be a dealer, just a hobby , not making a profit from, his work therefore should not be allowed to have a license, and shutting them down also . I think the end game is to make sure only the biggest dealers can still be in business, making it easier for them to get control of who has what when it comes time to shut everything down And mega corporations buying up reloading equipment/supplies , ammo companies , firearms+++ . They'll use our tax dollars to pay off the owners/producers to close the businesses. And JerryJoe McBubba will be convinced it's safer for the kids. Thats capitalism....right? Paying the govt to destroy your competition?
I am MAGA.
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I just emailed Tom Cotton & John Boozman my senators. Their all Tokens .. K Street Owns all of Them .. Then they all go back to those Three Counties that Surround The District of Corruption and swap spit in the shower with each Other . It’s Obvious that it’s All Circus complete with the Hot Corndog’s
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Say I got my dad’s XXX bought in 1958 and a guy I know wants it. I sell it to him. I meet him at Waffle House. He hands me the cash. That might be illegal under the new rules but how are you going to enforce that. The same way they enforce the rule now: pick someone every so often and make an example of him. Shoot him, shoot his children, shoot his dog, burn their house down, etc. 100% enforcement isn’t needed. You let this rule go into effect for a bit then send an agent to a gun show or flea market or similar. Agent buys a gun from someone who isn’t licensed without running NICS. The next day a team raids that person for violating the rule, kills the guy and his dog, and the ATF has their (((media friends))) publish a feel good story about it. That has the effect of reducing the number of people willing to do private sales. Maybe wait a year or two and kill a buyer the same way. 10 years from now private sales are nearly dead and they advance some other notion of how criminals are getting guns and run it through that same playbook. Overton window sliding and as long they keep their ranks stocked with sociopaths it is easy to do.
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From what I read collectors and hobbyists are exempt, that being said, that can be quite subjective to them I'm sure.
Basically guys constantly flipping guns for profit without an ffl are who they are after...so they say Yes, but what's the definition of "constantly." It's subjective, and therefore vague, prone to arbitrary decision making when it comes to whose home to raid (and murder the occupants therein) with arrest and prosecution in mind. SPOT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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