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Expander ripped the neck off at the shoulder. Must need more neck lube! Seriously, I usually use Redding neck powder on every other case. This was the first time in 25ish years of reloading?
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I know graphite has become popular, but Imperial Wax creates less friction in the brass—in my slightly humble opinion.
Although if you’re at the point of ripping the neck off 🤣 Imperial may not be enough!
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Up to last year, I used a Q-tip to apply Imperial wax to the inside of the case necks and that made the drag on the expander ball much less. Then, one way or another I had to remove the lube from inside of the necks.
Over the last year or so, I’ve been using Redding’s dry lube kit with graphite and tiny little balls that lubes the inside of the necks. Much easier to deal with….it doesn’t matter if there’s some graphite left in the neck either..
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Expander ripped the neck off at the shoulder. Must need more neck lube! Seriously, I usually use Redding neck powder on every other case. This was the first time in 25ish years of reloading? Newer Winchester brass..
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Expander ripped the neck off at the shoulder. Must need more neck lube! Seriously, I usually use Redding neck powder on every other case. This was the first time in 25ish years of reloading? General suggestion: Do everything the same on every case.
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For myself, it’s powdered graphite on the inside and Imperial Wax on the outside! memtb
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Expander ripped the neck off at the shoulder. Must need more neck lube! Seriously, I usually use Redding neck powder on every other case. This was the first time in 25ish years of reloading? Yet another reason not to pull the expander up through the neck.
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Expander ripped the neck off at the shoulder. Must need more neck lube! Seriously, I usually use Redding neck powder on every other case. This was the first time in 25ish years of reloading? Yet another reason not to pull the expander up through the neck. BS.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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For myself, it’s powdered graphite on the inside and Imperial Wax on the outside! memtb When I first started loading, I used graphite on the inside of the necks. Then I learned to make sure the expander was polished very smooth. In factory form, they aren't. Just chuck it up and bring it to a mirror polish, and most of these issues go away. Now I rarely use graphite anymore. Every once in a while I have to repolish the expanders.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Then I learned to make sure the expander was polished very smooth. In factory form, they aren't. Just chuck it up and bring it to a mirror polish, and most of these issues go away. Now I rarely use graphite anymore. Every once in a while I have to repolish the expanders. ^^ this. I've never seen the neck pulled off a case. I use a Qtip and RCBS case lube. It is a PITA, messy, incurs a couple extra steps to get it off, but it does lubricate well. I've not had an issue.
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I tried graphite and didn’t like it. Now a tale a bore swab and spray it with lube that dries . Lyman or Hornady. It dries by itself so no extra steps necessary. Just my way. Edk
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I went back to spray also. Graphite and wax worked well but it was a PITA.
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It's pretty obvious that the piece of brass had a defect. Brass just doesn't pull apart otherwise.
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It's pretty obvious that the piece of brass had a defect. Brass just doesn't pull apart otherwise. 😳 Logic being used on the fire is not allowed. Brass is never defective, only dies are. Agree though.
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I've never had that happen but have had necks split. Couldn't tell you what caused it but that hasn't happened in a long time. I've Unique lube on A Q tip when it seemed like the expander was pulling hard and problem went away. Mostly though I use One Shot spray and spray opposite side of the case's and down on both side's from about 45* angle getting lube in the neck. Seldom ever a problem.
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“Once fired” Remington 😂 It's pretty obvious that the piece of brass had a defect. Brass just doesn't pull apart otherwise. Agreed. I just thought the campfire needed something to debate for a week or so.
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For myself, it’s powdered graphite on the inside and Imperial Wax on the outside! memtb When I first started loading, I used graphite on the inside of the necks. Then I learned to make sure the expander was polished very smooth. In factory form, they aren't. Just chuck it up and bring it to a mirror polish, and most of these issues go away. Now I rarely use graphite anymore. Every once in a while I have to repolish the expanders. And you talk sh it about “complicated unnecessary sh it”. Don’t have to do 20 trick moves to make a Redding bushing die work.
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Then I learned to make sure the expander was polished very smooth. In factory form, they aren't. Just chuck it up and bring it to a mirror polish, and most of these issues go away. Now I rarely use graphite anymore. Every once in a while I have to repolish the expanders. Gotta agree with BSA on this one…….
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