an old 8mm mouser hits harder and the ammos cheaper at about 4.50 a20round pack so wile you can shoot a charging bear with a 7mm-08 a shoulder hit will proble piss him off wile the 8mm with cheap ammo will leave it stumbling a round on 3 legs woundering wat hit it the gun i have will punch through a tree a foot&a half thick and keep going the 7mm-08 my friend had bullets busted about 2 inchs inside the tree dont get me wrong wile a dear would be dear would die easy from that a bad shoot on a bear with out enuf punch can be lead to a very painful death for a hunter be careful hunt safe make shure you have enuf gun for the you dear you planed on and the bear you dent.
gratedrake1,
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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Funny thing is...if you find it funny. Thats the way all his 5 posts are written. Me thinks he means no humor in the lack of punctuation or spelling which makes it a bit hard to discern the humor or point he does mean to make, if any at all.
Just kiddin, 280. I'm actually saving your post as I've got a 7X57 inbound and will try some of those loads. Gonna be a fun summer if the thing shoots OK. But it is a Rooger M77 and seems I read some iffy stuff about them. Did they have problems in the early days of the M77 in the 7X57?
I personally know a lady that has taken the following with a 20" full stocked Steyr 7x57:
Her husband developed the following loads for her:
For Elk, Moose, Bear, Lion: 160 Grand Slam/ 56grs Norma MRP/ Win Brass/ Win Primer (2797fps)
That load looks like it could get a might warm ... Not sayin ... I'm just sayin ...
GE
Could be, don't know. Does seem a bit fast, but then I haven't yet loaded any 7x57, or worked with Norma MRP. Just relaying what the lady wrote in her book.
Is there a current North American manufacturer that makes a rifle chambered in 7x57 ? If so I haven't been able to find one. I guess I'll have to settle for the "bean counter's special" a 7mm 08. It's appropriate I guess since prior to my retirement I was an accountant.
Patrick
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
And on the 8th day, God created the Border Collie.
The difference between the fastest and slowest is less than 50 fps.
The 7mm-08 Remington barrel length was 24 inches. ......7 x 57......................................... 22 ..... 280 Remington.............................. 24
Two inches in barrel length could account for 50 fps.
The 7mm-08 is loaded to 52,000 CUP. ......7 x 57................... 50,000 CUP. ......280 Rem................ 60,000 PSI.
The normal loading warnings are in writing along with a statement that normal U.S. maximum pressures for the 7 x 57 are 46,000 CUP but the Speer 7 x 57 loads match European standards and should not be used in Remington Rolling-Blocks or 93/95 Mausers. The 7 x 57 max loads 50,000 CUP pressures match 30-06 max load pressures.
I once owned two Rugers, one Model 77 tang safety and the other Mark II, both in 7x57mm. Both seemed to like 154 grain Hornady BTSP with Winchester 760. I later traded to a CZ 550 American in 7x57, and Ran into Ray here on the internet here who suggestd I try H414. The twist on the Rugers were 1x9.5 and the CZ was1x8.66. So, I moved up to the Hornady SST in 162 Grain. With Remington Cases, Frontier 210 primers, 48.3 grains of H414 powder, my choney was showing an average of 2,815 fps at an elevation of 7,000 in New Mexico. Groups were ging sub half inch at 100 yards and one group went .216 inch. With 160 grain partitions, this same load produced right around the same results. I had a one-shot kill on a nice bull elk at 325 lasered yards, mule deer, whitetail deer, black bear, antelope, javelina, wild hogs and even a wild texas turkey. No American manufactrer makes a 7x57 today. I think that is while all were trying to hype the 7mm short mags, there were too many 7mm on the market and the 7x57mm was a Euro Cartrige in the first place. You can still find them. GunBroker has a few listed right now, a few Rugers and couple of nifty Whitworths manlichers. In addition American Hunting Rifles will make you one up using a CZ action, a proprietary barrel and McMillan Stock. It is a great cartridge. Tom Purdom
Sure is a bunch of 7x57 fans on this site. Reckon I'm one of 'em.
I got me one of them little Brnos with the full stock, butterknife bolt, double set triggers and an old Leupy 4x Mountaineer on it. Kilt a bunch of stuff with it - up to and including a couple of elk.
Load good bullets, put 'em where they're supposed to go, and it's about all the rifle a guy needs.
