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Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... The_Real_Hawkeye #2312441 07/15/08
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isaac Campfire Kahuna I Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 62,043 Northern Virginia	You good folks step all over yourselves trying to sort it all out. The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward

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Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... isaac #2312466 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by isaac She intimidates me!! Why do I intimidate you? I certainly don't mean to... C'mon, Bob. You know you can disagree with me and I still love you. The real thing is that you're such a gentleman that you don't like to publicly disagree with me. You're quite a guy. We should have a phone conversation sometime... Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312474 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by rrroae I like being ornery and mischievous but around Penny,...it just ain't fun. Aw, c'mon. I enjoy "mischievous" as much as the next guy. I wouldn't want to quash that tendency in anyone... Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... isaac #2312483 07/15/08
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Bigbuck215 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,999 Billings, Mt and proud of it ...	Originally Posted by isaac You good folks step all over yourselves trying to sort it all out. Just tryin' to be helpful....but Christians are no better or worse than anyone else. The only good we have is Jesus for without Him we are plumb sorry. The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... The_Real_Hawkeye #2312490 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Being a Christian doesn't require the belief in any of the above. Hawk, you are so right!!! Being a Christian is a RELATIONSHIP, not a religion. It is a relationship with God and His Son, Jesus Christ. It is the acceptance of Christ's atoning death on the cross for our salvation. Everything else is just additional "stuff," legalism added by man, that confuses the issue. God exists. He saved my life a month ago. I live to serve Him. He is the joy and happiness in my life. Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

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Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... Barak's Womn #2312492 07/15/08
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,926 Likes: 53 USA	Originally Posted by Barak's Womn Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Being a Christian doesn't require the belief in any of the above. Hawk, you are so right!!! Being a Christian is a RELATIONSHIP, not a religion. It is a relationship with God and His Son, Jesus Christ. It is the acceptance of Christ's atoning death on the cross for our salvation. Everything else is just additional "stuff," legalism added by man, that confuses the issue. God exists. He saved my life a month ago. I live to serve Him. He is the joy and happiness in my life. Penny Lots of us are glad he chose to keep you among us, Penny.

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... The_Real_Hawkeye #2312494 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Lots of us are glad he chose to keep you among us, Penny. Me, too. I love you guys. Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... Barak's Womn #2312496 07/15/08
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rrroae Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,071 NW Pa	Originally Posted by Barak's Womn Aw, c'mon. I enjoy "mischievous" as much as the next guy. I wouldn't want to quash that tendency in anyone... Penny I had an Aunt who passed away several years ago. She was without a doubt the dearest person I've ever known. When we were young and would get into some mischief at her house, she wouldn't yell or raise a hand. Instead she'd look at you with a smile and say, "now you're too good of a boy to be doing that, I'm disappointed in you". The shame and guilt you felt because of how good she was hurt way worse than any whippin you might get. That's why, I'd much rather feel Bart's, SteveNo's or Issac's venom than to feel your dissapointment. lol ....darn good people.

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312498 07/15/08
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isaac Campfire Kahuna I Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 62,043 Northern Virginia	It's isaac...like in your Bible!! Ya' big dummy!! Last edited by isaac; 07/15/08. The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... isaac #2312513 07/15/08
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rrroae Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,071 NW Pa	lol Sorry bud. The bad part is I proofread my posts and I still make numerous spelling and grammatical errors. Just not my strong suit.

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Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312523 07/15/08
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isaac Campfire Kahuna I Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 62,043 Northern Virginia	You know I was kidding, right trips? If you knew what I was really called about a hundred times a day, you'd know a misspelling of my middle name doesn't bother me in the least. The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... isaac #2312525 07/15/08
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rrroae Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,071 NW Pa	lol Yeah I know.

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312648 07/15/08
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257_Roy Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,884 22,000 Miles WEST of Jeff Olse...	I prefer the more traditional CFB season spelling of Isuuc, if that helps you out any rrroae. Redistribute my work ethic, not my Wealth!!!!!

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312668 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by rrroae When we were young and would get into some mischief at her house, she wouldn't yell or raise a hand. Instead she'd look at you with a smile and say, "now you're too good of a boy to be doing that, I'm disappointed in you". Okay... you've really got my number. That's how I handle the inmates in prison! Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... Barak's Womn #2312672 07/15/08
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Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by Barak's Womn Originally Posted by rrroae When we were young and would get into some mischief at her house, she wouldn't yell or raise a hand. Instead she'd look at you with a smile and say, "now you're too good of a boy to be doing that, I'm disappointed in you". Okay... you've really got my number. That's how I handle the inmates in prison! Penny With or without pepper gas?

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... Barak's Womn #2312680 07/15/08
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257_Roy Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,884 22,000 Miles WEST of Jeff Olse...	I can hear the Judge now, "Alright Carl, you've been convicted. Now since your a first timer, we'll give you the choice of 5 years hard labor, or we can call Penny in to tell you she's disappointed." Carl-"Give me the 5 years, Boss." Redistribute my work ethic, not my Wealth!!!!!

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... 257_Roy #2312698 07/15/08
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rrroae Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,071 NW Pa	lol

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... rrroae #2312732 07/15/08
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OP derby_dude Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,261 Montana, Lewis and Clark Count...	Okay guys take break. You will be all tuckered out when I post Bob's question next Sunday. Keep your head down and your powder dry!!! Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous "Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... 257_Roy #2312933 07/15/08
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Barak's Womn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,414 at Barak's side	Originally Posted by 257_Roy I can hear the Judge now, "Alright Carl, you've been convicted. Now since your a first timer, we'll give you the choice of 5 years hard labor, or we can call Penny in to tell you she's disappointed." Carl-"Give me the 5 years, Boss." That's about it... Those guys would rather cut off their right arm than have me disappointed in them. For many of them, it's the first time anyone has actually cared about them, treated them decently, and respected them. They most certainly do not want to disappoint that person! I had a guy from my class who was released on parole. He showed up for a few weeks at the ex-offender ministry that Barak and I do on Saturday evenings. He got two jobs and a place to live. It seemed to me that he had it made. But then he picked up a woman one evening, stole her purse and her car, and took off. Of course, they caught him... parole violation (big time), back in the slammer. It took him probably a month before he could bring himself to come to the education area and look me in the face. He's still ashamed of what he did. But some guys simply are happier inside where decisions are made for them... they've been in so long they're institutionalized. Penny Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. --Hebrews 11:1

Re: Sunday's religious debate....death.... Barak's Womn #2313080 07/15/08
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Dew Campfire Regular D Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 586	"I cannot accept blind faith." Everytime you drive in your car or fly on an airplane you "accept blind faith" that you will get where you want to go. Looking for a new GPS for 2010? Try the Bible.

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