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The reasons I prefer Barnes all-copper bullets are:

1) If I do have to penetrate more animal due to an unfavourable shooting angle - I know nothing will penetrate better.

2) The newer TSX's are SO accurate - in so many rifles.

3) In my experience, they destroy much less meat.

4) I don't like the idea of eating lead fragments.

5) I can use a lighter bullet, gain more impact speed, have a flatter trajectory and get penetration equal to or greater than a much heavier cup & core bullet.

No bullet is perfect for every game, in every situation - of course.

But, Barnes bullets are better in most of situations that I shoot game - and for that - I just love 'em!

Well done.

I use the 7mm TSX in my 7mm-08(140 gr). It works well on elk, deer and lopes but was a bit lacking on bison. Penetrated well but took many holes through the lungs.

Since I got the 9.3 it has become my go to elk gun.

When you have a standing elk in the open quartering toward you but looking at you, you're not going to get a broadside or quartering away shot...except at a dead run. This is a very good shot but your opportunity is VERY short so you'd better forget waiting for a broadside and put some lead in the air or you'll have nothing better than a Texas heart shot.

MD, is there any difference in construction between the 180 and 200 partition in 30 cal or is the change between calibers. I ask because I started shooting the 180's in my 06 over 48 gr of RL15 limping along at 2625 fps. At 300+ yards it still tore up more speedgoat than I like to see.

I built a 338 federal for a guy and he shot a big cow elk at 427 yds with the accubond. The bullet went in behind the last rib and disappeared out the front of the chest. It didn't ruin much meat at all. The accubond might be a better bullet for the more modest cartridges and to help ensure longer range expansion.

I second that.

And accubombs recoil very sharply, as compared to what yer used to.........It appears......

There are a lot of guys here who don't live and breath metallurgy, bullet construction, etc. We just want the best bullet for the purpose. I started this topic to inform the average hunter that there might be a better bullet than an AB. We were getting some good info and keeping it civil in the process. I think you own this group an apology for trying to turn the discussion nasty.

I've never had a problem with one outa an -06 at around 2750mv. bullet hole in bullet hole out and tissue damage similar to what I'm seeing from a 140PT out of a 7mm-08. Never recovered an AB from the -06. But do not at all like results I see from the AB at higher velocitys.

Wow Are You Serious? An apology, for giving his explanation of how these bullets generally perform, giving the point of impact etc. I sure dont want or expect an apology from someone giving valuable feedback gleaned from years of actual experience,

A 300 WSM at 100 to 150 yds has the same velocity as a 30-06 at the muzzle. In my case, the elk was at 250 to 300 yds. The bullet would have slowed to about the same as a 30-06 at 100 to 150 yds. So, we're talking about the same velocities here, just a bit difference in range.

Anyone have experience with the .24 or .25 AB's? Maybe they are the ticket for turning a .243 or .25 06 and the like into an elk gun. Some of this is a little hard to understand, not picking at any one thing, but using a 180 on antelope, great big bullets on deer and elk. The large calibers came from the old days with regular bullet construction. The only thing worse than ruined meat is meat that runs way off and disappears.

DON'T try that. A while back I was on Nosler's site looking for info & I found a statement that specifically said that AB's smaller than 30 cal were not designed for elk and larger. They're too fragile & will blow up before they penetrate. I just tried to find it again but didn't. I don't remember where on their site I found it but it was definitely there.

My son dropped his elk with a 115 Combined Technology Ballistic Tip in 25 cal. DRT and lost maybe 5 pounds of meat. Silly kid is going to use the same bullet on what we hope is a big mountain mule deer any day now. This was out of a 25-06 Remmy. I would use a 110 Accubond without a second thought on any elk in Colorado. That said, I'll use a 100 TSX at 3600 out of my 257 Weatherby next.

Swift Aframe; Nosler Partition.

Switch to a 200 grain AB and quit shooting them in the shoulders...

Third.

What was very interesting in this thread for me, was the 427 yd elk with a 338 Federal.

eastplace,

Was that the 180 or 225 grain? Assuming the former.

My only experience with AB's so far is with the 130 grain, which shoots bugholes from one of my 6.5 X 55's at around 2700. Two deer, one just short of 400 yards, one at 20. The far deer was DRT, the close deer ran fifty feet. Bullets worked well, I thought. I have a box of 150 grain .30's, haven't decided yet what I'll load them in.

Dakotakid, +1, MuleDeer owes none of us an appology, I'm always thankfull to get some of his advise.